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PIC of air carrier large transport complains of night operation without having adequate sleep prior to the all nighter.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 254933 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199310 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : msp |
| State Reference | MN |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : iah |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 254933 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Flight crew attempted to turn down an all night msp-las-msp flight due to advance notice and no rest. However, no luck. Aircraft landed at msp at XA00 am local. Both captain and first officer had no sleep in previous 25 plus hours! It was an unsafe situation and, unfortunately, continues throughout the industry. I believe that ASRS should consider a safety alert about this problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PIC OF ACR LGT COMPLAINS OF NIGHT OP WITHOUT HAVING ADEQUATE SLEEP PRIOR TO THE ALL NIGHTER.
Narrative: FLC ATTEMPTED TO TURN DOWN AN ALL NIGHT MSP-LAS-MSP FLT DUE TO ADVANCE NOTICE AND NO REST. HOWEVER, NO LUCK. ACFT LANDED AT MSP AT XA00 AM LCL. BOTH CAPT AND FO HAD NO SLEEP IN PREVIOUS 25 PLUS HRS! IT WAS AN UNSAFE SIT AND, UNFORTUNATELY, CONTINUES THROUGHOUT THE INDUSTRY. I BELIEVE THAT ASRS SHOULD CONSIDER A SAFETY ALERT ABOUT THIS PROB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.