An air carrier medium large transport first officer reports that his captain flew a sloppy charted v...

Attributes
ACN	246740
Time
Date	199307
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : lga
State Reference	NY
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 2500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : n90 tower : lga
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Route In Use	approach : visual
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 1500
ASRS Report	246740
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Approaching lga, we were assigned the expressway visual approach. The captain was not familiar with the approach or landmarks, as I found out later. The captain was flying and got off course quite a lot and would not accept my help in keeping on course. We probably exceeded off course limits and noise limits. My suggestion: don't let pilots accept visual approachs when they are not familiar with required landmarks.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AN ACR MLG FO RPTS THAT HIS CAPT FLEW A SLOPPY CHARTED VISUAL APCH.

Narrative: APCHING LGA, WE WERE ASSIGNED THE EXPRESSWAY VISUAL APCH. THE CAPT WAS NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE APCH OR LANDMARKS, AS I FOUND OUT LATER. THE CAPT WAS FLYING AND GOT OFF COURSE QUITE A LOT AND WOULD NOT ACCEPT MY HELP IN KEEPING ON COURSE. WE PROBABLY EXCEEDED OFF COURSE LIMITS AND NOISE LIMITS. MY SUGGESTION: DON'T LET PLTS ACCEPT VISUAL APCHS WHEN THEY ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH REQUIRED LANDMARKS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

An air carrier medium large transport first officer reports that his captain flew a sloppy charted visual approach.