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Multiple runway operation intersecting runways air carrier X had less than standard separation from aircraft Y landing on intersecting runway. System error.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 238310 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199304 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : ewr |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | other personnel other |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 7000 |
| ASRS Report | 238310 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Air carrier X after being cleared to land on runway 4R at ewr, aircraft was rolling out after landing. First officer's landing was a little long but within landing zone. Captain took control at about 70 KTS. Approaching within 200 ft of intersection of runway 11, tower asked if we could hold short of runway 11. Ground speed (on airspeed indicator) still showed 60 KTS and first officer started to say affirmative but captain said 'tell him negative.' this was done. We noticed an aircraft Y rolling out after landing on runway 11 as we crossed the intersection. There was no indication that runway 11 was in use on ATIS and none of the 3 of us in the cockpit heard aircraft Y cleared to land on runway 11. Tower should have requested air carrier X to hold short of intersection when clearing us to land. We certainly would have been more aware of the situation had this happened (even though we still might not have been able to hold short of intersection, due to our high landing weight and speed). Controller error but no real safety factor but a technical hazard.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MULTIPLE RWY OP INTERSECTING RWYS ACR X HAD LTSS FROM ACFT Y LNDG ON INTERSECTING RWY. SYS ERROR.
Narrative: ACR X AFTER BEING CLRED TO LAND ON RWY 4R AT EWR, ACFT WAS ROLLING OUT AFTER LNDG. FO'S LNDG WAS A LITTLE LONG BUT WITHIN LNDG ZONE. CAPT TOOK CTL AT ABOUT 70 KTS. APCHING WITHIN 200 FT OF INTXN OF RWY 11, TWR ASKED IF WE COULD HOLD SHORT OF RWY 11. GND SPD (ON AIRSPD INDICATOR) STILL SHOWED 60 KTS AND FO STARTED TO SAY AFFIRMATIVE BUT CAPT SAID 'TELL HIM NEGATIVE.' THIS WAS DONE. WE NOTICED AN ACFT Y ROLLING OUT AFTER LNDG ON RWY 11 AS WE CROSSED THE INTXN. THERE WAS NO INDICATION THAT RWY 11 WAS IN USE ON ATIS AND NONE OF THE 3 OF US IN THE COCKPIT HEARD ACFT Y CLRED TO LAND ON RWY 11. TWR SHOULD HAVE REQUESTED ACR X TO HOLD SHORT OF INTXN WHEN CLRING US TO LAND. WE CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE AWARE OF THE SIT HAD THIS HAPPENED (EVEN THOUGH WE STILL MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HOLD SHORT OF INTXN, DUE TO OUR HIGH LNDG WT AND SPD). CTLR ERROR BUT NO REAL SAFETY FACTOR BUT A TECHNICAL HAZARD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.