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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 225618 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199211 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : sli airport : sna |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2800 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sna |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 |
| ASRS Report | 225618 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Departed runway 12 at lgb with a clearance to climb runway heading to maintain 3000 ft. The radar vector was a right turn directly into a group of aircraft. The map scale was at 10 mi and filled with targets. The first indication was a TA followed by an RA, descend, descend, descend. Shortly thereafter, climb, climb, climb, then monitor vertical speed. I remain convinced that following the RA was the safest action. I spoke with a coast approach supervisor and he informed me that the controller ordered a turn which we never received due to TCASII volume being too loud.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR ON INITIAL CLB HAS TCASII RA TO DSND THEN TO CLB. RESPONDS.
Narrative: DEPARTED RWY 12 AT LGB WITH A CLRNC TO CLB RWY HDG TO MAINTAIN 3000 FT. THE RADAR VECTOR WAS A R TURN DIRECTLY INTO A GROUP OF ACFT. THE MAP SCALE WAS AT 10 MI AND FILLED WITH TARGETS. THE FIRST INDICATION WAS A TA FOLLOWED BY AN RA, DSND, DSND, DSND. SHORTLY THEREAFTER, CLB, CLB, CLB, THEN MONITOR VERT SPD. I REMAIN CONVINCED THAT FOLLOWING THE RA WAS THE SAFEST ACTION. I SPOKE WITH A COAST APCH SUPVR AND HE INFORMED ME THAT THE CTLR ORDERED A TURN WHICH WE NEVER RECEIVED DUE TO TCASII VOLUME BEING TOO LOUD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.