<< >> NASA ASRS Report 220987, September 1992

Captain of air carrier large transport aircraft questioned the validity of the 'taxi to' runway in a standard taxi procedures chart versus that stated in the airmen's information manual (aim).

Attributes
ACN	220987
Time
Date	199209
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : rdv airport : rdu
State Reference	NC
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 12500 flight time type : 1000
ASRS Report	220987
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other
Situations
ATC Facility	procedure or policy : unspecified

Narrative:

A potential problem may exist at rdu with taxi instructions. Some airlines have an agreement with the ground control at some stations for 'standard taxi'. See enclosed taxi information. According to the aim 'taxi to' means just that, taxi to the runway by way of any taxiway you deem necessary and you may cross other runways to get to the departure runway. However, note what 'taxi to' means in the enclosed taxi instructions. Does the controller now have to say 'standard taxi to runway 5 left?' this happened to me the other day. Please write or call if you have any information on this problem.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CAPT OF ACR LGT ACFT QUESTIONED THE VALIDITY OF THE 'TAXI TO' RWY IN A STANDARD TAXI PROCS CHART VERSUS THAT STATED IN THE AIRMEN'S INFO MANUAL (AIM).

Narrative: A POTENTIAL PROBLEM MAY EXIST AT RDU WITH TAXI INSTRUCTIONS. SOME AIRLINES HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE GND CTL AT SOME STATIONS FOR 'STANDARD TAXI'. SEE ENCLOSED TAXI INFO. ACCORDING TO THE AIM 'TAXI TO' MEANS JUST THAT, TAXI TO THE RWY BY WAY OF ANY TAXIWAY YOU DEEM NECESSARY AND YOU MAY CROSS OTHER RWYS TO GET TO THE DEP RWY. HOWEVER, NOTE WHAT 'TAXI TO' MEANS IN THE ENCLOSED TAXI INSTRUCTIONS. DOES THE CTLR NOW HAVE TO SAY 'STANDARD TAXI TO RWY 5 L?' THIS HAPPENED TO ME THE OTHER DAY. PLEASE WRITE OR CALL IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO ON THIS PROBLEM.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.