Air carrier pilot has difficulty obtaining permanent pilot certificate from FAA in oklahoma city.

Attributes
ACN	206845
Time
Date	199204
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : mci
State Reference	MO
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Flight Phase	other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 1300
ASRS Report	206845
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	observation : air carrier inspector
Qualification	other other : other
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : unable
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Having obtained an additional rating (corp jet type rating) on my ATP certificate in aug/91 I received a temporary pilot certificate. 8 months later on apr/mon/92 and at the expiration of my 4TH temporary certificate issued by local FAA FSDO's, I flew 2 flts before obtaining my 5TH temporary pilot certificate from the FAA FSDO in kansas city. I have been corresponding with the FAA in oklahoma city by telephone and mail during this entire time and they showed record of my current pilot status but were unable to perform the simple task of mailing me my permanent certificate due to their clerical errors which they admit to. Believing it was ok to fly since oklahoma FAA had records of my current and qualified status, I made 2 flts before oklahoma FAA decided I must possess a current certificate on my person even though by improving my qualifications their clerical errors caused my certificate to expire. I complied immediately causing great inconvenience to myself and my airline by being removed from my next flight while I went to the local kansas city FAA FSDO for my 5TH temporary ATP certificate. Currently, I still do not have my permanent certificate from the oklahoma city FAA. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: as of the time of the callback, he has still not received his permanent license. He further indicated that in aug, he will have gone a yr without his permanent certificate, and that to celebrate the occasion, he intends to send a birthday cake to FAA officials in oklahoma city.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR PLT HAS DIFFICULTY OBTAINING PERMANENT PLT CERTIFICATE FROM FAA IN OKLAHOMA CITY.

Narrative: HAVING OBTAINED AN ADDITIONAL RATING (CORP JET TYPE RATING) ON MY ATP CERTIFICATE IN AUG/91 I RECEIVED A TEMPORARY PLT CERTIFICATE. 8 MONTHS LATER ON APR/MON/92 AND AT THE EXPIRATION OF MY 4TH TEMPORARY CERTIFICATE ISSUED BY LCL FAA FSDO'S, I FLEW 2 FLTS BEFORE OBTAINING MY 5TH TEMPORARY PLT CERTIFICATE FROM THE FAA FSDO IN KANSAS CITY. I HAVE BEEN CORRESPONDING WITH THE FAA IN OKLAHOMA CITY BY TELEPHONE AND MAIL DURING THIS ENTIRE TIME AND THEY SHOWED RECORD OF MY CURRENT PLT STATUS BUT WERE UNABLE TO PERFORM THE SIMPLE TASK OF MAILING ME MY PERMANENT CERTIFICATE DUE TO THEIR CLERICAL ERRORS WHICH THEY ADMIT TO. BELIEVING IT WAS OK TO FLY SINCE OKLAHOMA FAA HAD RECORDS OF MY CURRENT AND QUALIFIED STATUS, I MADE 2 FLTS BEFORE OKLAHOMA FAA DECIDED I MUST POSSESS A CURRENT CERTIFICATE ON MY PERSON EVEN THOUGH BY IMPROVING MY QUALIFICATIONS THEIR CLERICAL ERRORS CAUSED MY CERTIFICATE TO EXPIRE. I COMPLIED IMMEDIATELY CAUSING GREAT INCONVENIENCE TO MYSELF AND MY AIRLINE BY BEING REMOVED FROM MY NEXT FLT WHILE I WENT TO THE LCL KANSAS CITY FAA FSDO FOR MY 5TH TEMPORARY ATP CERTIFICATE. CURRENTLY, I STILL DO NOT HAVE MY PERMANENT CERTIFICATE FROM THE OKLAHOMA CITY FAA. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: AS OF THE TIME OF THE CALLBACK, HE HAS STILL NOT RECEIVED HIS PERMANENT LICENSE. HE FURTHER INDICATED THAT IN AUG, HE WILL HAVE GONE A YR WITHOUT HIS PERMANENT CERTIFICATE, AND THAT TO CELEBRATE THE OCCASION, HE INTENDS TO SEND A BIRTHDAY CAKE TO FAA OFFICIALS IN OKLAHOMA CITY.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.