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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 205356 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199203 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : pmm |
| State Reference | MI |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 20000 msl bound upper : 20500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller military : 4 controller radar : 6 |
| ASRS Report | 205356 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action other |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Air carrier X widebody transport holding at pmm at FL200. Air carrier Y widebody transport entering holding at pmm from the north at FL210. Air carrier Y track still showing south to swbound was issued right turn direct pappi direct ord at 250 KTS. The pilot read the clearance back then was issued FL200. Air carrier Y should have headed about 260 degrees to get to pappi. Instead, he continued around to about an 080 degrees heading, head on with air carrier X at FL200. Now wbound in pmm holding pattern. Air carrier Y was issued an immediate descent, but replied that he was climbing. Air carrier Y was told to climb to FL210 and air carrier X was issued a descent to FL180.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POTENTIAL CONFLICT LTSS BTWN TWO ACR WDB'S.
Narrative: ACR X WDB HOLDING AT PMM AT FL200. ACR Y WDB ENTERING HOLDING AT PMM FROM THE N AT FL210. ACR Y TRACK STILL SHOWING S TO SWBOUND WAS ISSUED R TURN DIRECT PAPPI DIRECT ORD AT 250 KTS. THE PLT READ THE CLRNC BACK THEN WAS ISSUED FL200. ACR Y SHOULD HAVE HEADED ABOUT 260 DEGS TO GET TO PAPPI. INSTEAD, HE CONTINUED AROUND TO ABOUT AN 080 DEGS HDG, HEAD ON WITH ACR X AT FL200. NOW WBOUND IN PMM HOLDING PATTERN. ACR Y WAS ISSUED AN IMMEDIATE DSCNT, BUT REPLIED THAT HE WAS CLBING. ACR Y WAS TOLD TO CLB TO FL210 AND ACR X WAS ISSUED A DSCNT TO FL180.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.