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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 187226 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199108 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : lhs airport : bur |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 7800 msl bound upper : 9000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival star : star enroute airway : bur |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 1010 flight time type : 90 |
| ASRS Report | 187226 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was following a STAR to bur for a landing. My altitude was 9000 ft approaching the lynxx 6 arrival which was assigned to me. Upon reaching the lake hughes VOR I began to descend to 7800 ft as published. The controller called me and said 'you are maintaining 9000 ft aren't you?' I replied that I was descending to 7800 ft as indicated on the arrival. He informed me I could be violated and that I was to maintain altitude until instructed otherwise by ATC, unless I was following a profile view. I have since questioned a few pilots on this matter. Most are not certain. I feel instructors should put more emphasis on this phase of training (stars/sids).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA ASSIGNED A STAR DSNDS BELOW ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: I WAS FOLLOWING A STAR TO BUR FOR A LNDG. MY ALT WAS 9000 FT APCHING THE LYNXX 6 ARR WHICH WAS ASSIGNED TO ME. UPON REACHING THE LAKE HUGHES VOR I BEGAN TO DSND TO 7800 FT AS PUBLISHED. THE CTLR CALLED ME AND SAID 'YOU ARE MAINTAINING 9000 FT AREN'T YOU?' I REPLIED THAT I WAS DSNDING TO 7800 FT AS INDICATED ON THE ARR. HE INFORMED ME I COULD BE VIOLATED AND THAT I WAS TO MAINTAIN ALT UNTIL INSTRUCTED OTHERWISE BY ATC, UNLESS I WAS FOLLOWING A PROFILE VIEW. I HAVE SINCE QUESTIONED A FEW PLTS ON THIS MATTER. MOST ARE NOT CERTAIN. I FEEL INSTRUCTORS SHOULD PUT MORE EMPHASIS ON THIS PHASE OF TRAINING (STARS/SIDS).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.