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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 186402 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199108 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : apa |
| State Reference | CO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 6800 msl bound upper : 6800 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : apa |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 26 flight time total : 26 flight time type : 26 |
| ASRS Report | 186402 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 150 vertical : 150 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
In 8/91, I experienced a possible hazard with another aircraft. On upwind for 17R at centennial airport following another aircraft for touch and goes. The spacing between us was short. I slowed my plane as much as I could and went to the right of the aircraft ahead. I radioed for a crosswind turn to avoid getting too close. The tower didn't respond. The aircraft in front reached it's crosswind leg altitude and began the turn for a right hand pattern. I had to turn with the aircraft to keep separation. If I continued upwind, the separation would be too close for comfort to the other aircraft. I feel the pattern was too congested and spacing was limited.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSE PROX 2 SMA ACFT IN TFC AT APA.
Narrative: IN 8/91, I EXPERIENCED A POSSIBLE HAZARD WITH ANOTHER ACFT. ON UPWIND FOR 17R AT CENTENNIAL ARPT FOLLOWING ANOTHER ACFT FOR TOUCH AND GOES. THE SPACING BTWN US WAS SHORT. I SLOWED MY PLANE AS MUCH AS I COULD AND WENT TO THE R OF THE ACFT AHEAD. I RADIOED FOR A XWIND TURN TO AVOID GETTING TOO CLOSE. THE TWR DIDN'T RESPOND. THE ACFT IN FRONT REACHED IT'S XWIND LEG ALT AND BEGAN THE TURN FOR A R HAND PATTERN. I HAD TO TURN WITH THE ACFT TO KEEP SEPARATION. IF I CONTINUED UPWIND, THE SEPARATION WOULD BE TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT TO THE OTHER ACFT. I FEEL THE PATTERN WAS TOO CONGESTED AND SPACING WAS LIMITED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.