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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 178964 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199105 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : aml |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 9000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 22 controller supervisory : 10 |
| ASRS Report | 178964 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 25800 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Air carrier X from over mol doccs iad was being vectored behind air carrier Y who was out of west en route to doccs iad. While this was going on, my other 2 events were occurring. Air carrier X was on a 350 degree then 2 more headings to fall behind air carrier Y. Air carrier X was at 90 and air carrier Y was descending to 90. This was in my mind the only event which I thought I had complete control. At no time did I think I had less than 5 mi. But the computer proved me wrong. The only suggestion I could give is that this situation that occurs every day at this same time has to be worked on and corrected. As I said in the other report, it happens only for about 30 mins each day. In all my 30 some odd yrs of controling and supervision, I have never seen a situation where a sector could blow up as fast as this and deteriorate just as fast.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X HAD LTSS FROM ACR Y. SYS ERROR.
Narrative: ACR X FROM OVER MOL DOCCS IAD WAS BEING VECTORED BEHIND ACR Y WHO WAS OUT OF W ENRTE TO DOCCS IAD. WHILE THIS WAS GOING ON, MY OTHER 2 EVENTS WERE OCCURRING. ACR X WAS ON A 350 DEG THEN 2 MORE HDGS TO FALL BEHIND ACR Y. ACR X WAS AT 90 AND ACR Y WAS DSNDING TO 90. THIS WAS IN MY MIND THE ONLY EVENT WHICH I THOUGHT I HAD COMPLETE CTL. AT NO TIME DID I THINK I HAD LESS THAN 5 MI. BUT THE COMPUTER PROVED ME WRONG. THE ONLY SUGGESTION I COULD GIVE IS THAT THIS SITUATION THAT OCCURS EVERY DAY AT THIS SAME TIME HAS TO BE WORKED ON AND CORRECTED. AS I SAID IN THE OTHER RPT, IT HAPPENS ONLY FOR ABOUT 30 MINS EACH DAY. IN ALL MY 30 SOME ODD YRS OF CTLING AND SUPERVISION, I HAVE NEVER SEEN A SITUATION WHERE A SECTOR COULD BLOW UP AS FAST AS THIS AND DETERIORATE JUST AS FAST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.