Air carrier large transport altitude deviation undershot altitude crossing restriction on departure ...

Attributes
ACN	172686
Time
Date	199103
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : pap
State Reference	FO
Altitude	msl bound lower : 24500 msl bound upper : 31000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : mteg
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	enroute airway : zma
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : second officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 1500 flight time type : 500
ASRS Report	172686
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 300
ASRS Report	172306
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : far non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Pap departure told us to climb to FL310 and report joses intersection. ZMA, upon our passing 24500', asked us if we would be able to make FL310 by joses. We said, 'no.' they then asked us if we were told by pap departure to make FL310 by joses. We said, 'yes.' they then asked us if we told pap that we wouldn't make FL310 by joses. We said, 'no.' they then leveled us at FL260 until an air carrier large transport Y passed by us. They then leveled us at FL260 until an air carrier large transport Y passed by us. ZMA then climbed us on up to FL310 for the next portion of flight. Contributing factors include: pap accent difficult to understand clearance. Distraction of a F/a trying to sort out a passenger boarding pass problem with the flight crew.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR LGT ALT DEVIATION UNDERSHOT ALT CROSSING RESTRICTION ON DEP FROM PAP.

Narrative: PAP DEP TOLD US TO CLB TO FL310 AND RPT JOSES INTXN. ZMA, UPON OUR PASSING 24500', ASKED US IF WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE FL310 BY JOSES. WE SAID, 'NO.' THEY THEN ASKED US IF WE WERE TOLD BY PAP DEP TO MAKE FL310 BY JOSES. WE SAID, 'YES.' THEY THEN ASKED US IF WE TOLD PAP THAT WE WOULDN'T MAKE FL310 BY JOSES. WE SAID, 'NO.' THEY THEN LEVELED US AT FL260 UNTIL AN ACR LGT Y PASSED BY US. THEY THEN LEVELED US AT FL260 UNTIL AN ACR LGT Y PASSED BY US. ZMA THEN CLBED US ON UP TO FL310 FOR THE NEXT PORTION OF FLT. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS INCLUDE: PAP ACCENT DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND CLRNC. DISTR OF A F/A TRYING TO SORT OUT A PAX BOARDING PASS PROB WITH THE FLT CREW.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Air carrier large transport altitude deviation undershot altitude crossing restriction on departure from pap.