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Flight inbound to stt cleared to 17000' at carib. Proceeded toward culeb (17 miles north of stt) until controller intervened.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 161851 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199010 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : mjzs |
| State Reference | PR |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 17000 msl bound upper : 17000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : mjzs |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 12400 flight time type : 450 |
| ASRS Report | 161851 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Misunderstanding of a clearance point. We were an inbound flight to st thomas. San juan control had cleared us to 17000' direct to carib. We read back cleared to culeb 17 NM from stt. Center had us turned 20 degrees right as we almost entered W368. As we do not fly in this are on a daily basis, these 2 positions sound very much alike. Carib is 15 NM 002 degrees sju. Culeb is 17 NM 309 degrees stt. Would recommend one of these intxns' names be changed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT INBOUND TO STT CLEARED TO 17000' AT CARIB. PROCEEDED TOWARD CULEB (17 MILES NORTH OF STT) UNTIL CTLR INTERVENED.
Narrative: MISUNDERSTANDING OF A CLRNC POINT. WE WERE AN INBND FLT TO ST THOMAS. SAN JUAN CTL HAD CLRED US TO 17000' DIRECT TO CARIB. WE READ BACK CLRED TO CULEB 17 NM FROM STT. CENTER HAD US TURNED 20 DEGS RIGHT AS WE ALMOST ENTERED W368. AS WE DO NOT FLY IN THIS ARE ON A DAILY BASIS, THESE 2 POSITIONS SOUND VERY MUCH ALIKE. CARIB IS 15 NM 002 DEGS SJU. CULEB IS 17 NM 309 DEGS STT. WOULD RECOMMEND ONE OF THESE INTXNS' NAMES BE CHANGED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.