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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 159602 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199010 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : hcn |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 23000 msl bound upper : 24000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : mteg |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute : other oceanic |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : other oceanic |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 11000 |
| ASRS Report | 159602 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6000 |
| ASRS Report | 161528 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 15000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
We were climbing out of puerto plata nwbnd on a 636 between reyak and albee intxns. Our clearance was to cross albee intersection at FL240. As we were coming upon FL230 I saw an aircraft at our left front going from our 10:30 position toward our 4:30 position at about our altitude. Just as I decided that the other aircraft was going to pass well behind us, I heard another aircraft asking the ATC controller about traffic at his 12 O'clock and 3 mi. During the conversation it became apparent that we were the traffic he saw. Later a ZMA controller told me that we may have passed within 2.5 mi of the other aircraft at nearly the same altitude. I did see the other aircraft, but it was not a near miss. We did not need to alter our course.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR WAS ISSUED A CLIMB THROUGH AN OCCUPIED ALT RESULTING IN LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION.
Narrative: WE WERE CLBING OUT OF PUERTO PLATA NWBND ON A 636 BTWN REYAK AND ALBEE INTXNS. OUR CLRNC WAS TO CROSS ALBEE INTXN AT FL240. AS WE WERE COMING UPON FL230 I SAW AN ACFT AT OUR LEFT FRONT GOING FROM OUR 10:30 POS TOWARD OUR 4:30 POS AT ABOUT OUR ALT. JUST AS I DECIDED THAT THE OTHER ACFT WAS GOING TO PASS WELL BEHIND US, I HEARD ANOTHER ACFT ASKING THE ATC CTLR ABOUT TFC AT HIS 12 O'CLOCK AND 3 MI. DURING THE CONVERSATION IT BECAME APPARENT THAT WE WERE THE TFC HE SAW. LATER A ZMA CTLR TOLD ME THAT WE MAY HAVE PASSED WITHIN 2.5 MI OF THE OTHER ACFT AT NEARLY THE SAME ALT. I DID SEE THE OTHER ACFT, BUT IT WAS NOT A NEAR MISS. WE DID NOT NEED TO ALTER OUR COURSE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.