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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 157797 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199009 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ord |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 255 flight time total : 30000 flight time type : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 157797 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight attendant : on duty |
| Qualification | other other : other |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable other |
| Consequence | Other Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
When I arrived at aircraft the first F/a met me at the door with her concern for the experience level of her crew. She had been flying for 1 yr, 2 F/a's were on their first flight, 3 F/a's had been on line 1 month, and 3 F/a's had been flying less than a month. This resulted in a hectic flight with service not being completed. Approaching O'hare first F/a requested an additional 15 min of flight time to pick-up. There are far's concerning inexperience in cockpit does this include cabin crew? If an emergency should have occurred there could have been a disaster! The first F/a says this has happened to her before. From a safety standpoint this practice should not be allowed! Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information. Reporter states that he sent a copy of his report to company. They have called him in to discuss problem and assured him they are working on it. However, they do not feel there is a safety factor and captain feels strongly that there is.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT ATTENDANT ON WDB ACFT COMPLAINS TO CAPT ABOUT LACK OF EXPERIENCE OF CABIN CREW.
Narrative: WHEN I ARRIVED AT ACFT THE FIRST F/A MET ME AT THE DOOR WITH HER CONCERN FOR THE EXPERIENCE LEVEL OF HER CREW. SHE HAD BEEN FLYING FOR 1 YR, 2 F/A'S WERE ON THEIR FIRST FLT, 3 F/A'S HAD BEEN ON LINE 1 MONTH, AND 3 F/A'S HAD BEEN FLYING LESS THAN A MONTH. THIS RESULTED IN A HECTIC FLT WITH SVC NOT BEING COMPLETED. APCHING O'HARE FIRST F/A REQUESTED AN ADDITIONAL 15 MIN OF FLT TIME TO PICK-UP. THERE ARE FAR'S CONCERNING INEXPERIENCE IN COCKPIT DOES THIS INCLUDE CABIN CREW? IF AN EMER SHOULD HAVE OCCURRED THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A DISASTER! THE FIRST F/A SAYS THIS HAS HAPPENED TO HER BEFORE. FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT THIS PRACTICE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED! CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO. RPTR STATES THAT HE SENT A COPY OF HIS RPT TO COMPANY. THEY HAVE CALLED HIM IN TO DISCUSS PROB AND ASSURED HIM THEY ARE WORKING ON IT. HOWEVER, THEY DO NOT FEEL THERE IS A SAFETY FACTOR AND CAPT FEELS STRONGLY THAT THERE IS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.