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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 157269 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199009 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sna |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 1000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : sna artcc : zoa |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 900 flight time type : 180 |
| ASRS Report | 157269 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 100 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
In small aircraft X I was returning from sna's local practice area outside the sna arsa. I contacted approach and received clearance into sna's arsa. The approach controller then gave me a frequency change to sna tower. After tuning in tower frequency I made my initial call up. Approximately 4 mi southwest sna. The controller was very busy (appeared to be overloaded) at the point I decided to continue into the pattern. (I did not want to conflict with other traffic departing or returning into sna). I continued to call sna tower but could not get a response from the controller. As I entered downwind a departing small aircraft Y flew under us by approximately 100'. At this time the controller acknowledged me and cleared me to land. I believe the problem arose because of the late handoff from approach, the overloading of sna's controller, and my decision to continue into the traffic pattern west/O contact with sna's tower.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSE PROX GA SMA ENTERING SNA TRAFFIC AND SMA IN THE PATTERN.
Narrative: IN SMA X I WAS RETURNING FROM SNA'S LCL PRACTICE AREA OUTSIDE THE SNA ARSA. I CONTACTED APCH AND RECEIVED CLRNC INTO SNA'S ARSA. THE APCH CTLR THEN GAVE ME A FREQ CHANGE TO SNA TWR. AFTER TUNING IN TWR FREQ I MADE MY INITIAL CALL UP. APPROX 4 MI SW SNA. THE CTLR WAS VERY BUSY (APPEARED TO BE OVERLOADED) AT THE POINT I DECIDED TO CONTINUE INTO THE PATTERN. (I DID NOT WANT TO CONFLICT WITH OTHER TFC DEPARTING OR RETURNING INTO SNA). I CONTINUED TO CALL SNA TWR BUT COULD NOT GET A RESPONSE FROM THE CTLR. AS I ENTERED DOWNWIND A DEPARTING SMA Y FLEW UNDER US BY APPROX 100'. AT THIS TIME THE CTLR ACKNOWLEDGED ME AND CLRED ME TO LAND. I BELIEVE THE PROB AROSE BECAUSE OF THE LATE HDOF FROM APCH, THE OVERLOADING OF SNA'S CTLR, AND MY DECISION TO CONTINUE INTO THE TFC PATTERN W/O CONTACT WITH SNA'S TWR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.