Air carrier given amended headings and altitudes on initial climb for separation of descending traff...

Attributes
ACN	156810
Time
Date	199009
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : lax
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 9000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : lax
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	climbout : initial climbout : takeoff
Route In Use	enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	descent other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 45 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 45
ASRS Report	156810
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance other
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 6000 vertical : 600
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Operational Error

Narrative:

We departed lax on a scheduled flight to oak. Clearance was via the gorman 8 SID, we expected rv to the lax 323 degree right etc. Takeoff was on runway 25R, maintain 5000'. Changed to departure control, then cleared to maintain 9000'. About 6 mi west of lax, turn right to 090 degree. Climbing and turning through about 60 degree, departure control said 'turn back to left to 270 degree.' first officer started back left, controller then gave us traffic at 2 O'clock, descending to 6000'. We were climbing through about 6500' at that time. As we left 7000' I told the controller we were out of 7000'. He said to continue the turn, which we were doing. As we passed through about 360 degree, the controller called traffic at 12 O'clock descending through your altitude. We observed a blue medium large transport about 1 mi in front of us. After the traffic cleared the controller stopped our turn at 300 degree. We were then cleared to gorman and changed frequency. Continued to oak normally.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR GIVEN AMENDED HEADINGS AND ALTS ON INITIAL CLIMB FOR SEPARATION OF DESCENDING TRAFFIC.

Narrative: WE DEPARTED LAX ON A SCHEDULED FLT TO OAK. CLRNC WAS VIA THE GORMAN 8 SID, WE EXPECTED RV TO THE LAX 323 DEG R ETC. TKOF WAS ON RWY 25R, MAINTAIN 5000'. CHANGED TO DEP CTL, THEN CLRED TO MAINTAIN 9000'. ABOUT 6 MI W OF LAX, TURN R TO 090 DEG. CLBING AND TURNING THROUGH ABOUT 60 DEG, DEP CTL SAID 'TURN BACK TO L TO 270 DEG.' F/O STARTED BACK L, CTLR THEN GAVE US TFC AT 2 O'CLOCK, DSNDING TO 6000'. WE WERE CLBING THROUGH ABOUT 6500' AT THAT TIME. AS WE L 7000' I TOLD THE CTLR WE WERE OUT OF 7000'. HE SAID TO CONTINUE THE TURN, WHICH WE WERE DOING. AS WE PASSED THROUGH ABOUT 360 DEG, THE CTLR CALLED TFC AT 12 O'CLOCK DSNDING THROUGH YOUR ALT. WE OBSERVED A BLUE MLG ABOUT 1 MI IN FRONT OF US. AFTER THE TFC CLRED THE CTLR STOPPED OUR TURN AT 300 DEG. WE WERE THEN CLRED TO GORMAN AND CHANGED FREQ. CONTINUED TO OAK NORMALLY.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Air carrier given amended headings and altitudes on initial climb for separation of descending traffic.