<< >> NASA ASRS Report 153649, August 1990

Widebody transport flight crew on initial climb advised of traffic alert. Request position traffic. Leveled off below altitude of called traffic.

Attributes
ACN	153649
Time
Date	199008
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : san
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 1100 msl bound upper : 1600
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : san
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	climbout : initial climbout : takeoff
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	observation : company check pilot
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 23000
ASRS Report	153649
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	other
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Tower announced that they had a traffic alert on us, as we were passing through 1000' MSL. We looked and could see nothing and were entering clouds at that moment. First officer was flying. The captain asked for the position of the traffic. The tower gave the traffic at 2 O'clock, 1 mi, 1600'. The captain stated that we were leveling off at 1300', and the first officer leveled the aircraft. We had been climbing about 2000 FPM. The captain then asked the position of the traffic. He was then behind us and clear, so we resumed departure. We were advised later that they had the pilot and he would be violated for entering TCA west/O a clearance. We were in the clouds and never did see the aircraft in question. The only thing we did was to level the aircraft to stay out of his altitude.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: WDB FLT CREW ON INITIAL CLIMB ADVISED OF TRAFFIC ALERT. REQUEST POSITION TRAFFIC. LEVELED OFF BELOW ALT OF CALLED TRAFFIC.

Narrative: TWR ANNOUNCED THAT THEY HAD A TFC ALERT ON US, AS WE WERE PASSING THROUGH 1000' MSL. WE LOOKED AND COULD SEE NOTHING AND WERE ENTERING CLOUDS AT THAT MOMENT. F/O WAS FLYING. THE CAPT ASKED FOR THE POS OF THE TFC. THE TWR GAVE THE TFC AT 2 O'CLOCK, 1 MI, 1600'. THE CAPT STATED THAT WE WERE LEVELING OFF AT 1300', AND THE F/O LEVELED THE ACFT. WE HAD BEEN CLBING ABOUT 2000 FPM. THE CAPT THEN ASKED THE POS OF THE TFC. HE WAS THEN BEHIND US AND CLR, SO WE RESUMED DEP. WE WERE ADVISED LATER THAT THEY HAD THE PLT AND HE WOULD BE VIOLATED FOR ENTERING TCA W/O A CLRNC. WE WERE IN THE CLOUDS AND NEVER DID SEE THE ACFT IN QUESTION. THE ONLY THING WE DID WAS TO LEVEL THE ACFT TO STAY OUT OF HIS ALT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.