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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 149915 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199006 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : pmm |
| State Reference | MI |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 22000 msl bound upper : 22000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody Transport |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 2 |
| ASRS Report | 149915 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 10200 vertical : 600 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Widebody transport on frequency at FL220 J70 inbound to ord. Small transport on frequency at FL250 elx-lan-ptk. I had 2 other high altitude ord inbnds who I gave standard clearance to cross 10 west of pmm at FL200. I gave small transport cross 20 west of lan at FL200. Clearance should have been 20 west at FL230. I thought I said FL230. Put FL230 hard in computer, issued traffic to both aircraft. When issued to widebody transport, I stated small transport level at FL230. Once past the widebody transport, the small transport pilot questioned his altitude. I told him to verify level FL230 (thought he blew the altitude or his mode C was inaccurate). He replied negative and was cleared to FL200. I checked the flight strip and he was correct. In my mind he was going to FL200, but I was caught in giving a repetitive clearance and said 1 thing but meant another.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: 2 ACFT PASSED WITH LESS THAN STANDARD RADAR OR ALT SEPARATION.
Narrative: WDB ON FREQ AT FL220 J70 INBND TO ORD. SMT ON FREQ AT FL250 ELX-LAN-PTK. I HAD 2 OTHER HIGH ALT ORD INBNDS WHO I GAVE STANDARD CLRNC TO CROSS 10 W OF PMM AT FL200. I GAVE SMT CROSS 20 W OF LAN AT FL200. CLRNC SHOULD HAVE BEEN 20 W AT FL230. I THOUGHT I SAID FL230. PUT FL230 HARD IN COMPUTER, ISSUED TFC TO BOTH ACFT. WHEN ISSUED TO WDB, I STATED SMT LEVEL AT FL230. ONCE PAST THE WDB, THE SMT PLT QUESTIONED HIS ALT. I TOLD HIM TO VERIFY LEVEL FL230 (THOUGHT HE BLEW THE ALT OR HIS MODE C WAS INACCURATE). HE REPLIED NEGATIVE AND WAS CLRED TO FL200. I CHKED THE FLT STRIP AND HE WAS CORRECT. IN MY MIND HE WAS GOING TO FL200, BUT I WAS CAUGHT IN GIVING A REPETITIVE CLRNC AND SAID 1 THING BUT MEANT ANOTHER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.