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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 142205 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199004 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : rka |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 29700 msl bound upper : 31300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zbw |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| ASRS Report | 142205 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | vertical : 1600 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Cpr X at FL370 was assigned FL310 when cpr Y was observed on radar by mode C to be leaving FL310 for FL290. Cpr X rate of descent was far greater than cpr Y's and less than standard separation occurred when cpr X was at FL313 and cpr Y was at FL297. Being company aircraft of the same make and model, I thought their respective descent rates would be close to the same. Because of my oversight and the different flying techniques of the 2 pilots, an operational error occurred.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CPR X HAD LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION FROM CPR Y. SYSTEM ERROR.
Narrative: CPR X AT FL370 WAS ASSIGNED FL310 WHEN CPR Y WAS OBSERVED ON RADAR BY MODE C TO BE LEAVING FL310 FOR FL290. CPR X RATE OF DSNT WAS FAR GREATER THAN CPR Y'S AND LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION OCCURRED WHEN CPR X WAS AT FL313 AND CPR Y WAS AT FL297. BEING COMPANY ACFT OF THE SAME MAKE AND MODEL, I THOUGHT THEIR RESPECTIVE DSNT RATES WOULD BE CLOSE TO THE SAME. BECAUSE OF MY OVERSIGHT AND THE DIFFERENT FLYING TECHNIQUES OF THE 2 PLTS, AN OPERATIONAL ERROR OCCURRED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.