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Ce-560XL/xls pilot reported he felt training was inadequate on for these aircraft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1365759 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201606 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Citation Excel (C560XL) |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | First Officer |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Flight Engineer Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 90 Flight Crew Total 25000 Flight Crew Type 2000 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | No Specific Anomaly Occurred All Types |
Narrative:
I would like to express my concern about the training materials and procedures that I received. My concerns: 1. There is a huge disparity between the xl & xls emergency checklists simply because the xls has not been updated even though the aircraft are nearly identical.2. Because of training mandates from their primary contractor; they teach that flaps 15 should be the 'normal' flaps for takeoff even though it is the wrong setting for 95% of all takeoffs. Flaps 7 should be the 'normal setting'; unless some unusual runway requirement dictates. 3. Though the aircraft are nearly identical; one requires that the ignitors be turned on for an emergency descent and the other not. The ignitors are not needed for this procedure and introduce the potential for operating the wrong switches in a demanding; dark cockpit.4. Both aircraft fail to require that the battery 'temp' be observed prior to selecting 'emer' with a battery over temp. This significant step should be added to the checklist.5. The 'cabin isolation switch' should be opened if cabin smoke or fire is experienced. It should be added to both aircraft type checklists for obvious reasons.there are other procedural differences between the nearly identical aircraft that should be corrected in a timely manner. These and the many other discrepancies and errors may seem like minor items until you consider that their crew members jump between the two types on a daily basis.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CE-560XL/XLS pilot reported he felt training was inadequate on for these aircraft.
Narrative: I would like to express my concern about the training materials and procedures that I received. My concerns: 1. There is a huge disparity between the XL & XLS emergency checklists simply because the XLS has not been updated even though the aircraft are nearly identical.2. Because of training mandates from their primary contractor; they teach that flaps 15 should be the 'normal' flaps for takeoff even though it is the wrong setting for 95% of all takeoffs. Flaps 7 should be the 'normal setting'; unless some unusual runway requirement dictates. 3. Though the aircraft are nearly identical; one requires that the ignitors be turned on for an emergency descent and the other not. The ignitors are NOT needed for this procedure and introduce the potential for operating the wrong switches in a demanding; dark cockpit.4. Both aircraft fail to require that the battery 'temp' be observed prior to selecting 'emer' with a battery over temp. This significant step should be added to the checklist.5. The 'cabin isolation switch' should be opened if cabin smoke or fire is experienced. It should be added to both aircraft type checklists for obvious reasons.There are other procedural differences between the nearly identical aircraft that should be corrected in a timely manner. These and the many other discrepancies and errors may seem like minor items until you consider that their crew members jump between the two types on a daily basis.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.