2 small aircraft training aircraft on approach to prc had near midair collision.

Attributes
ACN	133298
Time
Date	199001
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : prc
State Reference	AZ
Altitude	msl bound lower : 5200 msl bound upper : 5200
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : prc
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear
Flight Phase	descent : approach descent other
Flight Plan	None
Aircraft 2
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear
Flight Phase	descent : approach descent other
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 650 flight time type : 540
ASRS Report	133298
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	unspecified : 200
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

Tower told me to report 4.3 DME on the localizer. I missed the call. The next radio transmission was tower asking me if we were on short final. I said that we were at the missed approach point. Tower told me to break it off to the left, that we had just missed an aircraft on final by 200'. I couldn't see the aircraft because we were flying into the setting sun. On the ground, the ground controller asked me to call tower by phone. I talked to the local controller and he explained that the other aircraft was also a training flight. Of all 5 people involved (2 instrs, 2 students, controller), the other aircraft's student was the only one who saw us. I think that instrs need to be extremely careful when teaching. This problem could have been avoided if I had not allowed myself to become so tied up with teaching the student that I missed the call!

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: 2 SMA TRAINING ACFT ON APCH TO PRC HAD NMAC.

Narrative: TWR TOLD ME TO RPT 4.3 DME ON THE LOC. I MISSED THE CALL. THE NEXT RADIO XMISSION WAS TWR ASKING ME IF WE WERE ON SHORT FINAL. I SAID THAT WE WERE AT THE MISSED APCH POINT. TWR TOLD ME TO BREAK IT OFF TO THE LEFT, THAT WE HAD JUST MISSED AN ACFT ON FINAL BY 200'. I COULDN'T SEE THE ACFT BECAUSE WE WERE FLYING INTO THE SETTING SUN. ON THE GND, THE GND CTLR ASKED ME TO CALL TWR BY PHONE. I TALKED TO THE LCL CTLR AND HE EXPLAINED THAT THE OTHER ACFT WAS ALSO A TRNING FLT. OF ALL 5 PEOPLE INVOLVED (2 INSTRS, 2 STUDENTS, CTLR), THE OTHER ACFT'S STUDENT WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO SAW US. I THINK THAT INSTRS NEED TO BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL WHEN TEACHING. THIS PROB COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF I HAD NOT ALLOWED MYSELF TO BECOME SO TIED UP WITH TEACHING THE STUDENT THAT I MISSED THE CALL!

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.