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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1324067 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201601 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZ.TRACON |
| State Reference | US |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Climb |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | Cruise |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 208 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
During climb out received ATC level off instructions at 5;000 feet and 020 heading. Captain noticed traffic ahead at 6;000 feet and five miles off the nose. ATC then issued a climb clearance to 15;000 feet. Captain took the radio from first officer and told ATC that there was TCAS traffic at 12 o'clock and five miles and 1;000 feet above us as a safety concern. ATC then came back with a turn to heading of 060 and remain at 5;000 feet. ATC then came back to me asking why I didn't want to do what she instructed me to; and was not used to pilots not doing what she asks them to do. Captain replied with it was a safety concern and the traffic got within 2 miles of us at 1;000 above and that I felt that if I would have started that climb; I would have received a TCAS RA. She seemed very angry at me that we did not climb when asked; but I felt it was a safety concern for my aircraft; that is why I questioned her call with my TCAS information. I don't think ATC should have such a problem with a potential traffic risk that I am seeing right in front of me; especially when it was an easy fix.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Flight crew delayed climb to higher altitude due to traffic.
Narrative: During climb out received ATC level off instructions at 5;000 feet and 020 heading. Captain noticed traffic ahead at 6;000 feet and five miles off the nose. ATC then issued a climb clearance to 15;000 feet. Captain took the radio from First Officer and told ATC that there was TCAS traffic at 12 o'clock and five miles and 1;000 feet above us as a safety concern. ATC then came back with a turn to heading of 060 and remain at 5;000 feet. ATC then came back to me asking why I didn't want to do what she instructed me to; and was not used to pilots not doing what she asks them to do. Captain replied with it was a safety concern and the traffic got within 2 miles of us at 1;000 above and that I felt that if I would have started that climb; I would have received a TCAS RA. She seemed very angry at me that we did not climb when asked; but I felt it was a safety concern for my aircraft; that is why I questioned her call with my TCAS information. I don't think ATC should have such a problem with a potential traffic risk that I am seeing right in front of me; especially when it was an easy fix.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.