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Delayed climb to altitude by the flight crew of a C560 as required by the teb 5 departure procedure sponsored by a last min clearance from N90 departure controller after departure teb, nj.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 616538 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200405 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 2000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Citation Excel |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure sid : teb |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 600 |
| ASRS Report | 616538 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to original clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On the teb 5 departure, ATC said heading 280 degrees and altitude 1500 ft. The departure says to climb to 2000 ft at the teb 4.5 DME. I asked ATC to confirm 1500 ft and they said to climb to 2000 ft. This was done at 4.5 DME anyway. Although, if ATC had any delay in responding to me, we would have not been sure of what they wanted.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DELAYED CLB TO ALTITUDE BY THE FLT CREW OF A C560 AS REQUIRED BY THE TEB 5 DEP PROC SPONSORED BY A LAST MIN CLRNC FROM N90 DEP CTLR AFTER DEP TEB, NJ.
Narrative: ON THE TEB 5 DEP, ATC SAID HDG 280 DEGS AND ALTITUDE 1500 FT. THE DEP SAYS TO CLB TO 2000 FT AT THE TEB 4.5 DME. I ASKED ATC TO CONFIRM 1500 FT AND THEY SAID TO CLB TO 2000 FT. THIS WAS DONE AT 4.5 DME ANYWAY. ALTHOUGH, IF ATC HAD ANY DELAY IN RESPONDING TO ME, WE WOULD HAVE NOT BEEN SURE OF WHAT THEY WANTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.