Air carrier medium large transport fails to adhere to recommended minimum altitude on visual approac...

Attributes
ACN	129253
Time
Date	198911
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : bur
State Reference	CA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : bur tower : bur
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	descent : approach descent other landing other
Route In Use	approach : visual
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 8000
ASRS Report	129253
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : unable none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

I was on flight phx-bur. The captain was flying the aircraft. On our approach into bur we were cleared the 4 stacks visibility approach. I asked the captain if he knew what the 4 stacks visibility approach was. He said 'yes.' I then said 'are you sure you don't want an ILS runway 7.' he said 'no.' approach asked him if he would like radar vectors to an ILS runway 7. He said 'no.' we then called the field in sight. Approach said to maintain 3000', 'cleared 4 stacks visibility approach runway 15, contact tower on 118.7.' after talking to bur tower. Tower said maintain 3000' till on final. I told the captain 3 times about his altitude. As he went through 3000-2500', tower said we descended a little early. At 1000' AGL we were high and fast. I suggested we take it around. At 500' AGL we were bug plus 15 KTS, descending 1500 FPM. The captain then put 40 degree flaps out and pulled the speed brake out. I said to captain, 'what are you doing?' after we got on the ground, I called bur tower and asked them what they showed. Bur tower said 'we showed you at 2700'' and whiteman tower called and showed us at 2500', not on final for runway 15. I then said '3 NASA reports in 1 day.'

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR MLG FAILS TO ADHERE TO RECOMMENDED MINIMUM ALT ON VISUAL APCH TO BUR.

Narrative: I WAS ON FLT PHX-BUR. THE CAPT WAS FLYING THE ACFT. ON OUR APCH INTO BUR WE WERE CLRED THE 4 STACKS VIS APCH. I ASKED THE CAPT IF HE KNEW WHAT THE 4 STACKS VIS APCH WAS. HE SAID 'YES.' I THEN SAID 'ARE YOU SURE YOU DON'T WANT AN ILS RWY 7.' HE SAID 'NO.' APCH ASKED HIM IF HE WOULD LIKE RADAR VECTORS TO AN ILS RWY 7. HE SAID 'NO.' WE THEN CALLED THE FIELD IN SIGHT. APCH SAID TO MAINTAIN 3000', 'CLRED 4 STACKS VIS APCH RWY 15, CONTACT TWR ON 118.7.' AFTER TALKING TO BUR TWR. TWR SAID MAINTAIN 3000' TILL ON FINAL. I TOLD THE CAPT 3 TIMES ABOUT HIS ALT. AS HE WENT THROUGH 3000-2500', TWR SAID WE DSNDED A LITTLE EARLY. AT 1000' AGL WE WERE HIGH AND FAST. I SUGGESTED WE TAKE IT AROUND. AT 500' AGL WE WERE BUG PLUS 15 KTS, DSNDING 1500 FPM. THE CAPT THEN PUT 40 DEG FLAPS OUT AND PULLED THE SPD BRAKE OUT. I SAID TO CAPT, 'WHAT ARE YOU DOING?' AFTER WE GOT ON THE GND, I CALLED BUR TWR AND ASKED THEM WHAT THEY SHOWED. BUR TWR SAID 'WE SHOWED YOU AT 2700'' AND WHITEMAN TWR CALLED AND SHOWED US AT 2500', NOT ON FINAL FOR RWY 15. I THEN SAID '3 NASA RPTS IN 1 DAY.'

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Air carrier medium large transport fails to adhere to recommended minimum altitude on visual approach to bur.