<< >> NASA ASRS Report 1278566, July 2015

B-747 crew; after checking enroute charts and querying ATC; discovered that the holding pattern in their FMC was incorrect. Crew used manual heading to enter the holding pattern and ipad information to reprogram the FMC. Crew mentioned a lack of training in locating holding data in the ipad.

Attributes
ACN	1278566
Time
Date	201507
Local Time Of Day	0601-1200
Place
Locale Reference	SFO.Airport
State Reference	CA
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Aircraft 1
Make Model Name	B747 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	Descent
Flight Plan	IFR
Component
Aircraft Component	FMS/FMC
Person 1
Function	First Officer Pilot Not Flying
Qualification	Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP)
Experience	Flight Crew Last 90 Days 205 Flight Crew Total 12883 Flight Crew Type 8101
Events
Anomaly	Aircraft Equipment Problem Less Severe Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Track / Heading All Types

Narrative:

Inside of 10 nm from pirat we were given holding as published; we were already at 250 knots. So we were approximately 1min 30sec from the hold fix. The FMC is programmed with the incorrect hold information. I have not been trained on the ipad in a method to find the holding pattern information. I was able to find it on the us low 3/4 and eventually self-taught to locate it on the ipad. We made a right turn into the hold per the FMC and then queried the controller on the correct holding information. We used heading select to get the correct holding pattern established and were eventually able to program the FMC correctly. The pirat holding information used to be on the area-1 chart but is no longer in our publications.

Related reports:

• An air carrier MD80 flight crew discovered, when they rotate...
• A pilot filing an IFR flight plan revision because of an air...

	Enter your search terms Submit search form
	Web www.37000feet.com

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: B-747 crew; after checking enroute charts and querying ATC; discovered that the holding pattern in their FMC was incorrect. Crew used manual heading to enter the holding pattern and iPad information to reprogram the FMC. Crew mentioned a lack of training in locating holding data in the iPad.

Narrative: Inside of 10 nm from PIRAT we were given holding as published; we were already at 250 knots. So we were approximately 1min 30sec from the hold fix. The FMC is programmed with the incorrect hold information. I have not been trained on the ipad in a method to find the holding pattern information. I was able to find it on the US low 3/4 and eventually self-taught to locate it on the ipad. We made a right turn into the hold per the FMC and then queried the controller on the correct holding information. We used heading select to get the correct holding pattern established and were eventually able to program the FMC correctly. The PIRAT holding information used to be on the Area-1 chart but is no longer in our publications.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.