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On landing roll air carrier medium large transport turned off on intersecting active runway without clearance.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 127565 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198911 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lga |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi landing other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 199 flight time total : 11700 flight time type : 2977 |
| ASRS Report | 127565 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared to land on runway 4. Night, low overcast and rain. After landing, captain cleared onto runway 13. I noticed that the tower had an aircraft in position on 13. Once already on 13, the tower told us that runway 13 turnoff was approved, followed by our first right turn. When we contacted ground he told us, taxi via papa outer, hotel, but we were already by papa and we used golf. I mentioned this to ground and he had no problem with it. The major point here is that I feel we should have stopped short of the intersecting runway or rolled thru it or requested permission to clear onto it. Fortunately, this controller was kind enough to approve it after the fact. Others might not be. P.south. At our airline the capts usually take the airplane below 20K and also do all the taxiing. This applies to the medium large transport, not necessarily other aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ON LNDG ROLL ACR MLG TURNED OFF ON INTERSECTING ACTIVE RWY WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED TO LAND ON RWY 4. NIGHT, LOW OVERCAST AND RAIN. AFTER LNDG, CAPT CLRED ONTO RWY 13. I NOTICED THAT THE TWR HAD AN ACFT IN POSITION ON 13. ONCE ALREADY ON 13, THE TWR TOLD US THAT RWY 13 TURNOFF WAS APPROVED, FOLLOWED BY OUR FIRST RIGHT TURN. WHEN WE CONTACTED GND HE TOLD US, TAXI VIA PAPA OUTER, HOTEL, BUT WE WERE ALREADY BY PAPA AND WE USED GOLF. I MENTIONED THIS TO GND AND HE HAD NO PROBLEM WITH IT. THE MAJOR POINT HERE IS THAT I FEEL WE SHOULD HAVE STOPPED SHORT OF THE INTERSECTING RWY OR ROLLED THRU IT OR REQUESTED PERMISSION TO CLEAR ONTO IT. FORTUNATELY, THIS CTLR WAS KIND ENOUGH TO APPROVE IT AFTER THE FACT. OTHERS MIGHT NOT BE. P.S. AT OUR AIRLINE THE CAPTS USUALLY TAKE THE AIRPLANE BELOW 20K AND ALSO DO ALL THE TAXIING. THIS APPLIES TO THE MLG, NOT NECESSARILY OTHER ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.