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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 117243 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198907 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : apa |
| State Reference | CO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : den |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Fighter |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 21 |
| ASRS Report | 117243 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was working the sr 1 and sr 2 combined. I took a handoff on cga X over ioc for arrival to apa airport. En route to apa approximately 15 mi east of apa, the pilot said he had 2 military jets pass in front of him at around 10,000'. Earlier I had had fgt Y call for a beacon code with some words about 12,000'. I assumed he was an arrival and I issued a VFR code. As it turned out, the targets merged, and fgt Y was in the denver TCA without a clearance with their xponders turned off. Cga X and fgt Y targets passed 10 mi southeast of bkf, crossing the runway 32 final approach course. I asked the fgt Y flight later if his transponder was on, he replied , well let's see. It then came on the radar.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CGA ENCOUNTERED AN FGT FLT CROSSING IN FRONT OF HIM AT THE SAME ALT.
Narrative: I WAS WORKING THE SR 1 AND SR 2 COMBINED. I TOOK A HANDOFF ON CGA X OVER IOC FOR ARRIVAL TO APA ARPT. ENRTE TO APA APPROX 15 MI E OF APA, THE PLT SAID HE HAD 2 MIL JETS PASS IN FRONT OF HIM AT AROUND 10,000'. EARLIER I HAD HAD FGT Y CALL FOR A BEACON CODE WITH SOME WORDS ABOUT 12,000'. I ASSUMED HE WAS AN ARRIVAL AND I ISSUED A VFR CODE. AS IT TURNED OUT, THE TARGETS MERGED, AND FGT Y WAS IN THE DENVER TCA WITHOUT A CLRNC WITH THEIR XPONDERS TURNED OFF. CGA X AND FGT Y TARGETS PASSED 10 MI SE OF BKF, XING THE RWY 32 FINAL APCH COURSE. I ASKED THE FGT Y FLT LATER IF HIS XPONDER WAS ON, HE REPLIED , WELL LET'S SEE. IT THEN CAME ON THE RADAR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.