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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 114217 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198906 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : rbd |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2200 msl bound upper : 2500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : rbd |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 2 Eng, Retractable Gear |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 1510 flight time type : 260 |
| ASRS Report | 114217 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | vertical : 300 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We, small aircraft X, were practicing instrument apches. We were established in level flight inbound on our first practice ILS at the initial approach altitude. An small aircraft Y apparently unaware that outbnd procedures are typically (VFR) 2500' to the procedure turn, was outbnd at 2200'. On seeing him we started a descending right turn to avoid. Apparently he never saw us. We were in contact with a radar equipped tower who never called him as traffic for us.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LIGHT TWIN ON IFR TRAINING FLT HAS NMAC WITH LIGHT SINGLE ENGINE.
Narrative: WE, SMA X, WERE PRACTICING INSTRUMENT APCHES. WE WERE ESTABLISHED IN LEVEL FLT INBND ON OUR FIRST PRACTICE ILS AT THE INITIAL APCH ALT. AN SMA Y APPARENTLY UNAWARE THAT OUTBND PROCS ARE TYPICALLY (VFR) 2500' TO THE PROC TURN, WAS OUTBND AT 2200'. ON SEEING HIM WE STARTED A DSNDING RIGHT TURN TO AVOID. APPARENTLY HE NEVER SAW US. WE WERE IN CONTACT WITH A RADAR EQUIPPED TWR WHO NEVER CALLED HIM AS TFC FOR US.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.