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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 112487 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198905 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : pix |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4200 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Helicopter |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller non radar : 6 controller radar : 7 |
| ASRS Report | 112487 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 21000 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Atx X instructed to execute right 360 turn. Midway thru turn, atx X cleared for ILS 27 approach. Was expected to continue turn. Atx X stopped turn and proceeded outbnd south of localizer conflicting with military Y. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter states aircraft 1 was an atx small transport and aircraft 2 was a military mlt. Aircraft 1 was issued a 360 for spacing and started the turn over pix. Aircraft 1 was cleared for the ILS 27. No intercept heading or distance from the approach fix was issued. Aircraft 1 continued eastbound to a point 4 mi east of pix before starting turn inbound. 5 mi radar separation was lost with aircraft 2 which was inbound on the localizer for an ILS 27 approach. Facility processed as a system error.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATX X HAD LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION FROM MIL Y. SYSTEM ERROR.
Narrative: ATX X INSTRUCTED TO EXECUTE RIGHT 360 TURN. MIDWAY THRU TURN, ATX X CLRED FOR ILS 27 APCH. WAS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TURN. ATX X STOPPED TURN AND PROCEEDED OUTBND S OF LOC CONFLICTING WITH MIL Y. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH REPORTER REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: REPORTER STATES ACFT 1 WAS AN ATX SMT AND ACFT 2 WAS A MIL MLT. ACFT 1 WAS ISSUED A 360 FOR SPACING AND STARTED THE TURN OVER PIX. ACFT 1 WAS CLRED FOR THE ILS 27. NO INTERCEPT HDG OR DISTANCE FROM THE APCH FIX WAS ISSUED. ACFT 1 CONTINUED EBND TO A POINT 4 MI E OF PIX BEFORE STARTING TURN INBND. 5 MI RADAR SEPARATION WAS LOST WITH ACFT 2 WHICH WAS INBND ON THE LOC FOR AN ILS 27 APCH. FAC PROCESSED AS A SYSTEM ERROR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.