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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Locale Reference||airport : dab|
|Altitude||agl bound lower : 0|
agl bound upper : 0
|Operator||common carrier : air carrier|
|Make Model Name||Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng|
|Flight Phase||landing other|
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 270|
flight time total : 3100
flight time type : 1100
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : first officer|
|Qualification||pilot : commercial|
pilot : instrument
|Anomaly||other anomaly other|
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : unable|
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
Regular scheduled flight from mco to dab, 2/89. WX was forecast VFR but due to cold front passage had gone down to 900' overcast prior to departure. En route ATIS NOTAM last 2000' of runway 7L under construction. This was nothing new in my mind since the runway had been under construction for the last 4 months or so. The problem being that the previous 4 months the first 2000' were under construction. The change had occurred just 2 days prior. The first officer read me ATIS and followed the WX by saying, 'you know about the runway?', not pointing out that it was the last 2000' and not the first). Over the NDB inbound the approach control questioned our knowledge of 'the runway construction.' as we broke out at 700' the first 2000' had new black asphalt that looked identical to when it was under construction since the remainder of the runway was white concrete. I landed long to avoid the construction and fast because of a 15g20 crosswind 90 degrees to my left and an increase vref with only 25% flaps. On T/D on the now 3500' runway (2000' off each end) I commenced full reverse and maximum brakes. I overran into the construction area by about 100'. There were no barriers or vehicles and no problem was encountered. I feel the problem has been corrected at daytona. I recommended that they clearly differentiate which end of the runway is closed on ATIS. I have flown into this airport since and they do just that. They tell you on ATIS and approach that it's the last, not the first 2000' that is closed. When a procedure changes at an airport, whether it's a new SID or arrival, it should be re-emphasized to the pilots. And in turn, we should listen more closely to the complete ATIS.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER SMT RWY EXCURSION AT DAB.
Narrative: REGULAR SCHEDULED FLT FROM MCO TO DAB, 2/89. WX WAS FORECAST VFR BUT DUE TO COLD FRONT PASSAGE HAD GONE DOWN TO 900' OVCST PRIOR TO DEP. ENRTE ATIS NOTAM LAST 2000' OF RWY 7L UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THIS WAS NOTHING NEW IN MY MIND SINCE THE RWY HAD BEEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR THE LAST 4 MONTHS OR SO. THE PROB BEING THAT THE PREVIOUS 4 MONTHS THE FIRST 2000' WERE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THE CHANGE HAD OCCURRED JUST 2 DAYS PRIOR. THE F/O READ ME ATIS AND FOLLOWED THE WX BY SAYING, 'YOU KNOW ABOUT THE RWY?', NOT POINTING OUT THAT IT WAS THE LAST 2000' AND NOT THE FIRST). OVER THE NDB INBND THE APCH CTL QUESTIONED OUR KNOWLEDGE OF 'THE RWY CONSTRUCTION.' AS WE BROKE OUT AT 700' THE FIRST 2000' HAD NEW BLACK ASPHALT THAT LOOKED IDENTICAL TO WHEN IT WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION SINCE THE REMAINDER OF THE RWY WAS WHITE CONCRETE. I LANDED LONG TO AVOID THE CONSTRUCTION AND FAST BECAUSE OF A 15G20 XWIND 90 DEGS TO MY LEFT AND AN INCREASE VREF WITH ONLY 25% FLAPS. ON T/D ON THE NOW 3500' RWY (2000' OFF EACH END) I COMMENCED FULL REVERSE AND MAX BRAKES. I OVERRAN INTO THE CONSTRUCTION AREA BY ABOUT 100'. THERE WERE NO BARRIERS OR VEHICLES AND NO PROB WAS ENCOUNTERED. I FEEL THE PROB HAS BEEN CORRECTED AT DAYTONA. I RECOMMENDED THAT THEY CLEARLY DIFFERENTIATE WHICH END OF THE RWY IS CLOSED ON ATIS. I HAVE FLOWN INTO THIS ARPT SINCE AND THEY DO JUST THAT. THEY TELL YOU ON ATIS AND APCH THAT IT'S THE LAST, NOT THE FIRST 2000' THAT IS CLOSED. WHEN A PROC CHANGES AT AN ARPT, WHETHER IT'S A NEW SID OR ARR, IT SHOULD BE RE-EMPHASIZED TO THE PLTS. AND IN TURN, WE SHOULD LISTEN MORE CLOSELY TO THE COMPLETE ATIS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.