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Commuter small transport overshot runway centerline turning in for visual approach to runway 25R at lax causing close proximity with widebody transport on visual straight in to runway 25L.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 138126 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199002 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 1000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax tower : evv |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other landing other |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent other landing other |
| Route In Use | approach : visual approach : circling |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 10400 |
| ASRS Report | 138126 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 185 flight time total : 17500 |
| ASRS Report | 137480 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | unspecified : 250 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On final approach +025L at lax at 1000' MSL, we had a near miss with an small transport who is apparently overshot 25R. I was in the process of talking to tower and didn't see the traffic until the captain saw him slightly low and to the right of our aircraft. He was in an evasive climbing right turn. I estimate closest point of approach about 250'. Factors involved: haze -- we had trouble seeing the runways until the marker approximately 1500 AGL. Airport -- conducts simultaneous apches in reduced visibility on very close runways. Flight crew -- I was occupied getting landing clearance, completing the checklist and finding the runway!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER SMT OVERSHOT RWY CENTERLINE TURNING IN FOR VISUAL APCH TO RWY 25R AT LAX CAUSING CLOSE PROX WITH WDB ON VISUAL STRAIGHT IN TO RWY 25L.
Narrative: ON FINAL APCH +025L AT LAX AT 1000' MSL, WE HAD A NEAR MISS WITH AN SMT WHO IS APPARENTLY OVERSHOT 25R. I WAS IN THE PROCESS OF TALKING TO TWR AND DIDN'T SEE THE TFC UNTIL THE CAPT SAW HIM SLIGHTLY LOW AND TO THE RIGHT OF OUR ACFT. HE WAS IN AN EVASIVE CLIMBING RIGHT TURN. I ESTIMATE CLOSEST POINT OF APCH ABOUT 250'. FACTORS INVOLVED: HAZE -- WE HAD TROUBLE SEEING THE RWYS UNTIL THE MARKER APPROX 1500 AGL. ARPT -- CONDUCTS SIMULTANEOUS APCHES IN REDUCED VISIBILITY ON VERY CLOSE RWYS. FLT CREW -- I WAS OCCUPIED GETTING LNDG CLRNC, COMPLETING THE CHECKLIST AND FINDING THE RWY!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.