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|Local Time Of Day||0601 To 1200|
|Locale Reference||airport : ryn|
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 2700|
msl bound upper : 2700
|Operator||general aviation : instructional|
|Make Model Name||Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear|
|Flight Phase||descent : approach|
|Route In Use||approach : circling|
|Make Model Name||Experimental|
|Flight Phase||descent : approach|
landing : go around
|Route In Use||approach : straight in|
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Qualification||pilot : commercial|
pilot : instrument
pilot : cfi
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 100|
flight time total : 3500
flight time type : 1800
|Affiliation||government : military|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Qualification||pilot : military|
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
6 aircraft in pattern, several making touch and go's on spc from davis-monthan AFB called ryn unicom (manned by tower personnel) stating he was on 10 mi final (on the ILS). Unicom advised there were 6 aircraft in pattern. Spc then stated he was coming in anyway. Airport rules give pattern traffic precedence over practice ILS. Procedure calls for them to break off 300' above pattern and overfly. Unicom then requested spc to report 5 mi final. We were on base with aircraft. On final ahead of us and another aircraft just behind. Unicom again advised spc of traffic and he replied he was coming in anyway. I saw spc above and to our right as we turned final but assumed he would break off, also we had nowhere to go. Sfc then advised he had us, passing directly above us on final and made a low approach just above aircraft lifting off runway. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter has reported incident to FAA and to the commanding general at davis monthan who has requested other witness reports which have been obtained and being sent to both af and FAA. FAA is also interested in follow up on incident. Naturally military pilots claim there was no danger and they flew to right of aircraft but witnesses state otherwise. Procedure is now changed not to allow practice ILS straight in without first entering traffic. Reporter thinks the military pilots were just out having fun and not considering aircraft they passed over could have suddenly pulled up into their aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MIL-SPC REFUSES SUGGESTIONS OF UNICOM AND INSISTS ON STRAIGHT IN ILS AT NON TWR ARPT WITH HEAVY TRAFFIC IN PATTERN AND RESULTS IN NMAC WITH 2 DIFFERENT GA-SMA.
Narrative: 6 ACFT IN PATTERN, SEVERAL MAKING TOUCH AND GO'S ON SPC FROM DAVIS-MONTHAN AFB CALLED RYN UNICOM (MANNED BY TWR PERSONNEL) STATING HE WAS ON 10 MI FINAL (ON THE ILS). UNICOM ADVISED THERE WERE 6 ACFT IN PATTERN. SPC THEN STATED HE WAS COMING IN ANYWAY. ARPT RULES GIVE PATTERN TFC PRECEDENCE OVER PRACTICE ILS. PROC CALLS FOR THEM TO BREAK OFF 300' ABOVE PATTERN AND OVERFLY. UNICOM THEN REQUESTED SPC TO RPT 5 MI FINAL. WE WERE ON BASE WITH ACFT. ON FINAL AHEAD OF US AND ANOTHER ACFT JUST BEHIND. UNICOM AGAIN ADVISED SPC OF TFC AND HE REPLIED HE WAS COMING IN ANYWAY. I SAW SPC ABOVE AND TO OUR RIGHT AS WE TURNED FINAL BUT ASSUMED HE WOULD BREAK OFF, ALSO WE HAD NOWHERE TO GO. SFC THEN ADVISED HE HAD US, PASSING DIRECTLY ABOVE US ON FINAL AND MADE A LOW APCH JUST ABOVE ACFT LIFTING OFF RWY. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR HAS RPTED INCIDENT TO FAA AND TO THE COMMANDING GENERAL AT DAVIS MONTHAN WHO HAS REQUESTED OTHER WITNESS RPTS WHICH HAVE BEEN OBTAINED AND BEING SENT TO BOTH AF AND FAA. FAA IS ALSO INTERESTED IN FOLLOW UP ON INCIDENT. NATURALLY MIL PLTS CLAIM THERE WAS NO DANGER AND THEY FLEW TO RIGHT OF ACFT BUT WITNESSES STATE OTHERWISE. PROC IS NOW CHANGED NOT TO ALLOW PRACTICE ILS STRAIGHT IN WITHOUT FIRST ENTERING TFC. RPTR THINKS THE MIL PLTS WERE JUST OUT HAVING FUN AND NOT CONSIDERING ACFT THEY PASSED OVER COULD HAVE SUDDENLY PULLED UP INTO THEIR ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.