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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1032341 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201208 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | OKBK.Airport |
| State Reference | FO |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B777-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Parked |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 200 Flight Crew Total 22000 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | Pilot Not Flying Relief Pilot |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 430 Flight Crew Total 10500 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural FAR Deviation - Procedural Weight And Balance |
Narrative:
One minute before pushback in okbk we received our final takeoff weights. Approximately one hour later; while airborne; we received an ACARS message from the dispatcher advising our final weights had been revised after our take off and that our actual weight was really 1;864 pounds heavier! The extra weight would not have been critical since a temperature drop from to 36 degrees C (from 38C) gave us an approximate 10;000 pounds cushion before reaching our maximum allowable takeoff weight for this flight.my observations: these final loading errors are unacceptable given the high ambient temperatures along with the usually tight weight limitations in which we operate in the middle east. On this flight; the temperature was not a crucial factor and we were not maxed out on weight. Yet; as we all know; any extra weight can affect an aircraft's performance. A timely fix to this problem needs to be found.okbk passenger and cargo loading procedures need to be re-examined with direct personal visits by dispatch and load planning representatives until satisfactory procedures are attained. Hopefully; we can prevent any future incidents like this.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B777 flight crew received a revision to their takeoff weight and balance data one hour after departure.
Narrative: One minute before pushback in OKBK we received our final takeoff weights. Approximately one hour later; while airborne; we received an ACARS message from the Dispatcher advising our final weights had been revised AFTER our take off and that our actual weight was really 1;864 LBS heavier! The extra weight would not have been critical since a temperature drop from to 36 degrees C (from 38C) gave us an approximate 10;000 LBS cushion before reaching our maximum allowable takeoff weight for this flight.My Observations: These final loading errors are unacceptable given the high ambient temperatures along with the usually tight weight limitations in which we operate in the Middle East. On this flight; the temperature was not a crucial factor and we were not maxed out on weight. Yet; as we all know; any extra weight can affect an aircraft's performance. A timely fix to this problem needs to be found.OKBK passenger and cargo loading procedures need to be re-examined with direct personal visits by Dispatch and Load Planning representatives until satisfactory procedures are attained. Hopefully; we can prevent any future incidents like this.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.