Close proximity air carrier-mdt GA-small aircraft in saf air traffic area.

Attributes
ACN	100752
Time
Date	198812
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : saf
State Reference	NM
Altitude	msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : saf tower : cid
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Transport
Flight Phase	other
Flight Plan	None
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear
Flight Phase	cruise other other
Route In Use	enroute : direct
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 10400
ASRS Report	100752
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 11500
ASRS Report	100751
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Miss Distance	vertical : 100
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

I was the flight instrument on a training flight in an mdt. My student is an mdt type rated pilot with 11500 hours who is in the process of upgrading to captain in our operation. While on downwind for a touch and go landing to runway 33 at saf the pilot in the left seat saw traffic out of the left window and he queried me as to what the traffic was and what its intentions were. I thought the traffic was an small aircraft which was approaching runway 2. When the small aircraft appeared on my side of the aircraft I was a red and white small aircraft about 100' below our altitude. I queried tower who now had the traffic in sight. Tower called in the blind to the traffic who was on frequency and stated he was going to VOR and then intended to land at saf. Later information that tower received was that the aircraft had departed durango, co, for santa flight engineer. The pilot stated he didn't know he was in the air traffic area as he didn't have his charts with him.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CLOSE PROX ACR-MDT GA-SMA IN SAF ATA.

Narrative: I WAS THE FLT INSTR ON A TRNING FLT IN AN MDT. MY STUDENT IS AN MDT TYPE RATED PLT WITH 11500 HRS WHO IS IN THE PROCESS OF UPGRADING TO CAPT IN OUR OPERATION. WHILE ON DOWNWIND FOR A TOUCH AND GO LNDG TO RWY 33 AT SAF THE PLT IN THE LEFT SEAT SAW TFC OUT OF THE LEFT WINDOW AND HE QUERIED ME AS TO WHAT THE TFC WAS AND WHAT ITS INTENTIONS WERE. I THOUGHT THE TFC WAS AN SMA WHICH WAS APCHING RWY 2. WHEN THE SMA APPEARED ON MY SIDE OF THE ACFT I WAS A RED AND WHITE SMA ABOUT 100' BELOW OUR ALT. I QUERIED TWR WHO NOW HAD THE TFC IN SIGHT. TWR CALLED IN THE BLIND TO THE TFC WHO WAS ON FREQ AND STATED HE WAS GOING TO VOR AND THEN INTENDED TO LAND AT SAF. LATER INFO THAT TWR RECEIVED WAS THAT THE ACFT HAD DEPARTED DURANGO, CO, FOR SANTA FE. THE PLT STATED HE DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS IN THE ATA AS HE DIDN'T HAVE HIS CHARTS WITH HIM.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.