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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||0601 To 1200|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : bza|
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 8500|
msl bound upper : 8500
|Controlling Facilities||tracon : yum|
|Operator||general aviation : instructional|
|Make Model Name||Small Transport|
|Flight Phase||cruise other|
|Route In Use||enroute : on vectors|
enroute : direct
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Qualification||pilot : instrument|
pilot : commercial
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 137|
flight time total : 4460
|Affiliation||government : faa|
|Function||controller : approach|
|Qualification||controller : radar|
|Anomaly||non adherence : far|
other anomaly other
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
|Resolutory Action||controller : issued new clearance|
flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
From phx to ipl on a cargo operation. I flew an small transport equipped with 2 navcoms and DME, all in working condition. As I was at the position R070 45 dem inbound bza VOR I contacted yum approach control, reporting position and requesting flight following through yuma area. After radar contact established, the controller told me that I was in a restr area and to turn left to 180 degrees following by correction to 150 degrees. (My heading at that time was 250 degrees.) about 2-3 mins after flying the new heading (about 6 NM at a TAS of 150 KTS with calm wind) he told me to resume own navigation. At that point the VOR was indicating radial of 075 degrees and 43 DME inbound bza VOR. I was never north to the 070 degree right bza VOR, which I always use as guidance to avoid the restr area (R-2307). Since the controller asked for my name, certificate number and other personal details, I assume this incident will be reported to the FAA. In my opinion, there must be something wrong with the radar accuracy if 2-3 mins of flying at that speed I will be at the 075 degree right which is about 6 NM south of the restr area. (The controller claimed that he saw me 16 NM north of the 075 degree right which put me 12 NM in the restr.) let me mention that myself and other company pilot had similar experience with yum radar approach control which turned out that we were not at the position that the radar indicated.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CHARTER SMT IN FRT OPERATION UNAUTH PENETRATION OF AIRSPACE.
Narrative: FROM PHX TO IPL ON A CARGO OPERATION. I FLEW AN SMT EQUIPPED WITH 2 NAVCOMS AND DME, ALL IN WORKING CONDITION. AS I WAS AT THE POS R070 45 DEM INBND BZA VOR I CONTACTED YUM APCH CTL, RPTING POS AND REQUESTING FLT FOLLOWING THROUGH YUMA AREA. AFTER RADAR CONTACT ESTABLISHED, THE CTLR TOLD ME THAT I WAS IN A RESTR AREA AND TO TURN LEFT TO 180 DEGS FOLLOWING BY CORRECTION TO 150 DEGS. (MY HDG AT THAT TIME WAS 250 DEGS.) ABOUT 2-3 MINS AFTER FLYING THE NEW HDG (ABOUT 6 NM AT A TAS OF 150 KTS WITH CALM WIND) HE TOLD ME TO RESUME OWN NAV. AT THAT POINT THE VOR WAS INDICATING RADIAL OF 075 DEGS AND 43 DME INBND BZA VOR. I WAS NEVER N TO THE 070 DEG R BZA VOR, WHICH I ALWAYS USE AS GUIDANCE TO AVOID THE RESTR AREA (R-2307). SINCE THE CTLR ASKED FOR MY NAME, CERTIFICATE NUMBER AND OTHER PERSONAL DETAILS, I ASSUME THIS INCIDENT WILL BE RPTED TO THE FAA. IN MY OPINION, THERE MUST BE SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE RADAR ACCURACY IF 2-3 MINS OF FLYING AT THAT SPD I WILL BE AT THE 075 DEG R WHICH IS ABOUT 6 NM S OF THE RESTR AREA. (THE CTLR CLAIMED THAT HE SAW ME 16 NM N OF THE 075 DEG R WHICH PUT ME 12 NM IN THE RESTR.) LET ME MENTION THAT MYSELF AND OTHER COMPANY PLT HAD SIMILAR EXPERIENCE WITH YUM RADAR APCH CTL WHICH TURNED OUT THAT WE WERE NOT AT THE POS THAT THE RADAR INDICATED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.