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|Local Time Of Day||1801 To 2400|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : mdw|
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 3000|
msl bound upper : 4300
|Controlling Facilities||tracon : ord|
|Operator||general aviation : corporate|
|Make Model Name||Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng|
|Flight Phase||climbout : intermediate altitude|
|Route In Use||departure sid : sid|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 150|
flight time total : 2200
flight time type : 300
|Function||flight crew : first officer|
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
|Anomaly||altitude deviation : overshoot|
non adherence : published procedure
non adherence : clearance
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
|Resolutory Action||controller : issued new clearance|
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
Flew into mdw the day before. Received departure clearance radar vectors polo then as filed mdw 3 departure, maintain 3000' expect 6000' in 10 mins. Complied with clearance, no problem. Flew back to mdw 12/thurs/88. Received departure clearance, radar vectors iowa city, then as filed mdw 3 departure, maintain 6000'. We were given heading 260 degrees by tower on takeoff. We were handed off to departure and reported climbing through 1400'. I asked copilot if we were still cleared to 6000' and he affirmed. Passing 4300' departure asked our altitude. Copilot replied and controller said to descend and maintain 4000' and that we were told to originally be at 3000'. Copilot studied SID. He thought that the clearance to 6000' from clearance delivery overruled the SID altitude of 3000'. This incident is my fault for not studying the SID myself. Since it was VFR and we were in a hurry, I let an inexperienced copilot handle part of my responsibility. I also don't get the opportunity to use many SID's and I honestly don't remember ever receiving one west/O both the expected and initial altitude. I am also new to the 2 pilot concept and we still are not working as a team. From now on I will take the time to study the SID and understand it thoroughly.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NON COMPLIANCE SID ALT RESTRICTION.
Narrative: FLEW INTO MDW THE DAY BEFORE. RECEIVED DEP CLRNC RADAR VECTORS POLO THEN AS FILED MDW 3 DEP, MAINTAIN 3000' EXPECT 6000' IN 10 MINS. COMPLIED WITH CLRNC, NO PROB. FLEW BACK TO MDW 12/THURS/88. RECEIVED DEP CLRNC, RADAR VECTORS IOWA CITY, THEN AS FILED MDW 3 DEP, MAINTAIN 6000'. WE WERE GIVEN HDG 260 DEGS BY TWR ON TKOF. WE WERE HANDED OFF TO DEP AND RPTED CLBING THROUGH 1400'. I ASKED COPLT IF WE WERE STILL CLRED TO 6000' AND HE AFFIRMED. PASSING 4300' DEP ASKED OUR ALT. COPLT REPLIED AND CTLR SAID TO DSND AND MAINTAIN 4000' AND THAT WE WERE TOLD TO ORIGINALLY BE AT 3000'. COPLT STUDIED SID. HE THOUGHT THAT THE CLRNC TO 6000' FROM CLRNC DELIVERY OVERRULED THE SID ALT OF 3000'. THIS INCIDENT IS MY FAULT FOR NOT STUDYING THE SID MYSELF. SINCE IT WAS VFR AND WE WERE IN A HURRY, I LET AN INEXPERIENCED COPLT HANDLE PART OF MY RESPONSIBILITY. I ALSO DON'T GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE MANY SID'S AND I HONESTLY DON'T REMEMBER EVER RECEIVING ONE W/O BOTH THE EXPECTED AND INITIAL ALT. I AM ALSO NEW TO THE 2 PLT CONCEPT AND WE STILL ARE NOT WORKING AS A TEAM. FROM NOW ON I WILL TAKE THE TIME TO STUDY THE SID AND UNDERSTAND IT THOROUGHLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.