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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||0601 To 1200|
|Locale Reference||airport : alo|
|Altitude||agl bound lower : 0|
agl bound upper : 0
|Operator||common carrier : air carrier|
|Make Model Name||Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng|
|Flight Phase||ground : holding|
ground other : taxi
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 200|
flight time total : 4480
flight time type : 1000
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||other personnel other|
|Qualification||other other : other|
|Anomaly||aircraft equipment problem : less severe|
non adherence other
|Independent Detector||aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : anomaly accepted|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
Holding short at runway 12 in waterloo, ia, doing takeoff briefing, noticed attention getter lights, pressed out, saw right oil cap light on, noticed right oil pressure gauge going to 0, pulled right feather lever to shut down engine (engine was already shutting down). Taxied back to gate, deplaned passenger and bags. Called mem maintenance, talked to #2 man in maintenance. He said he felt it was a flameout due to excessive winds in waterloo on the ground, blowing into the tailpipe extinguishing the fire. He said in his 3 yrs experience with these engines that it was a pretty normal thing and it happened a lot. He told me to restart engine and monitor gauges and report back. I restarted the engine. Everything was normal (ran it about 25 mins), talked to maintenance again, he asked me if there were any writeups. I said no. He said that I was through with him and I should call operations and see what they wanted me to do. I called operations, spoke with dispatch, laughed together about what happened, then he told me to reposition the aircraft in minneapolis. I did so with no problems and full belief in the engine. The next captain refused to take the aircraft west/O a writeup and inspection. I wrote up the aircraft as what I saw and signed it. Maintenance test ran aircraft for about 25 mins. The mechanic was writing in the aircraft book he could not duplicate when the engine spooled down again. I've lost 6 engines in 12 yrs of flying, (all in the air) 2 with this company. I felt the engine was alright.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER LTT ENGINE FLAME OUT WAITING TKOF CLRNC. RETURNED TO BLOCKS. NO ACFT MAINTENANCE NECESSARY.
Narrative: HOLDING SHORT AT RWY 12 IN WATERLOO, IA, DOING TKOF BRIEFING, NOTICED ATTN GETTER LIGHTS, PRESSED OUT, SAW RIGHT OIL CAP LIGHT ON, NOTICED RIGHT OIL PRESSURE GAUGE GOING TO 0, PULLED RIGHT FEATHER LEVER TO SHUT DOWN ENG (ENG WAS ALREADY SHUTTING DOWN). TAXIED BACK TO GATE, DEPLANED PAX AND BAGS. CALLED MEM MAINT, TALKED TO #2 MAN IN MAINT. HE SAID HE FELT IT WAS A FLAMEOUT DUE TO EXCESSIVE WINDS IN WATERLOO ON THE GND, BLOWING INTO THE TAILPIPE EXTINGUISHING THE FIRE. HE SAID IN HIS 3 YRS EXPERIENCE WITH THESE ENGS THAT IT WAS A PRETTY NORMAL THING AND IT HAPPENED A LOT. HE TOLD ME TO RESTART ENG AND MONITOR GAUGES AND RPT BACK. I RESTARTED THE ENG. EVERYTHING WAS NORMAL (RAN IT ABOUT 25 MINS), TALKED TO MAINT AGAIN, HE ASKED ME IF THERE WERE ANY WRITEUPS. I SAID NO. HE SAID THAT I WAS THROUGH WITH HIM AND I SHOULD CALL OPS AND SEE WHAT THEY WANTED ME TO DO. I CALLED OPS, SPOKE WITH DISPATCH, LAUGHED TOGETHER ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED, THEN HE TOLD ME TO REPOSITION THE ACFT IN MINNEAPOLIS. I DID SO WITH NO PROBS AND FULL BELIEF IN THE ENG. THE NEXT CAPT REFUSED TO TAKE THE ACFT W/O A WRITEUP AND INSPECTION. I WROTE UP THE ACFT AS WHAT I SAW AND SIGNED IT. MAINT TEST RAN ACFT FOR ABOUT 25 MINS. THE MECH WAS WRITING IN THE ACFT BOOK HE COULD NOT DUPLICATE WHEN THE ENG SPOOLED DOWN AGAIN. I'VE LOST 6 ENGS IN 12 YRS OF FLYING, (ALL IN THE AIR) 2 WITH THIS COMPANY. I FELT THE ENG WAS ALRIGHT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.