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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 98000 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198811 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : las |
| State Reference | NV |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 11200 msl bound upper : 11500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | approach : straight in |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 11000 |
| ASRS Report | 98000 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were cleared to las via the runway 25 localizer and to descend and maintain 11000'. At about 11200' the controller called and said 'large transport X, traffic alert 11-12 O'clock, 1/2 mi, eastbound at 11500'.' I looked up and only saw a flash go by my window. The first officer said he also, just saw the aircraft and he estimated 200' vertical/500' horizontal sep. The controller said no more, nor did we. He then handed us off to las approach and the remainder of the flight was uneventful. I only wonder why, if the VFR traffic was in radar contact, it wasn't pointed out sooner. I believe TCAS would have been a great help.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DESCENDING ACR LGT HAD CLOSE CALL WITH VFR ACFT, OPPOSITE DIRECTION IN LEVEL FLT.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED TO LAS VIA THE RWY 25 LOC AND TO DSND AND MAINTAIN 11000'. AT ABOUT 11200' THE CTLR CALLED AND SAID 'LGT X, TFC ALERT 11-12 O'CLOCK, 1/2 MI, EBND AT 11500'.' I LOOKED UP AND ONLY SAW A FLASH GO BY MY WINDOW. THE F/O SAID HE ALSO, JUST SAW THE ACFT AND HE ESTIMATED 200' VERT/500' HORIZ SEP. THE CTLR SAID NO MORE, NOR DID WE. HE THEN HANDED US OFF TO LAS APCH AND THE REMAINDER OF THE FLT WAS UNEVENTFUL. I ONLY WONDER WHY, IF THE VFR TFC WAS IN RADAR CONTACT, IT WASN'T POINTED OUT SOONER. I BELIEVE TCAS WOULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT HELP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.