Flight scheduled to exceed 8 hours in 24.

Attributes
ACN	97384
Time
Date	198811
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : msp
State Reference	MN
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	ground : preflight
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 600
ASRS Report	97384
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	other personnel other
Qualification	other other : other
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Airlines continues to schedule crews to fly from hnl to lax, then on to msp under international flight time regulations. This provides 8 hours 32 minutes flight time within a single duty period of 10 hours, 47 minutes. The msp air carrier district office has decided to not take any action against the company for this type of scheduling, but I question its legality and safety.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLT SCHEDULED TO EXCEED 8 HOURS IN 24.

Narrative: AIRLINES CONTINUES TO SCHEDULE CREWS TO FLY FROM HNL TO LAX, THEN ON TO MSP UNDER INTERNATIONAL FLT TIME REGS. THIS PROVIDES 8 HOURS 32 MINUTES FLT TIME WITHIN A SINGLE DUTY PERIOD OF 10 HOURS, 47 MINUTES. THE MSP AIR CARRIER DISTRICT OFFICE HAS DECIDED TO NOT TAKE ANY ACTION AGAINST THE COMPANY FOR THIS TYPE OF SCHEDULING, BUT I QUESTION ITS LEGALITY AND SAFETY.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.