Narrative:

With reference to the sjc loupe 5 SID, after rolling out on a 120 degree heading, the departure controller issued a series of rapid fire confusing clrncs that left me confused as to what he wanted us to do. Clearance included headings and altitudes with restrictions and pilot's discretion and to rejoin SID but at no specific point. Also a traffic advisory was given in turn southeast of sjc which we interpreted as a near miss, but later was told the traffic was no factor. That was very poor control. Loupe 5 is too complicated. It should be simplified to a right turn to 120 degrees and climb to 7000'. Then, crossing a sjc radial over loupe intersection, a right turn direct sjc and climb to higher altitude.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR LGT COMPLAINT ABOUT LOUPE SID AND ATC HANDLING.

Narrative: WITH REF TO THE SJC LOUPE 5 SID, AFTER ROLLING OUT ON A 120 DEG HDG, THE DEP CTLR ISSUED A SERIES OF RAPID FIRE CONFUSING CLRNCS THAT LEFT ME CONFUSED AS TO WHAT HE WANTED US TO DO. CLRNC INCLUDED HDGS AND ALTS WITH RESTRICTIONS AND PLT'S DISCRETION AND TO REJOIN SID BUT AT NO SPECIFIC POINT. ALSO A TFC ADVISORY WAS GIVEN IN TURN SE OF SJC WHICH WE INTERPRETED AS A NEAR MISS, BUT LATER WAS TOLD THE TFC WAS NO FACTOR. THAT WAS VERY POOR CONTROL. LOUPE 5 IS TOO COMPLICATED. IT SHOULD BE SIMPLIFIED TO A RIGHT TURN TO 120 DEGS AND CLB TO 7000'. THEN, XING A SJC RADIAL OVER LOUPE INTXN, A RIGHT TURN DIRECT SJC AND CLB TO HIGHER ALT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.