Air carrier large transport inbound to conus failed to conact oceanic controller and make required p...

Attributes
ACN	95360
Time
Date	198810
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : sie
State Reference	NV
Altitude	msl bound lower : 31000 msl bound upper : 31000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	enroute : atlantic enroute : other oceanic enroute airway : b24
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 700 flight time type : 6000
ASRS Report	95360
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : second officer
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 2100
ASRS Report	95357
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	other other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Flight from bda to bwi on route B24. Monitoring ny commercial radio high frequency. Both pilots thought the other pilot had given the champ fix position report to ny. The report was not given. Contact was made with ny center inbound to sie on the 131 degree right, approximately 150 mi DME, at approximately XA00. Looking back on the situation, there was probably too much conversation in the cockpit en route. Although I was flying and copilot was working the radio (supposedly), I should have verified that he had made the required position reports. Supplemental information from acn 95357: gave position to bda departure, cleared to en route. Never contacted ny oceanic control, did not realize we had not contacted oceanic control until we were selcaled over champs. As a second officer, I should have been paying more attention to the radio conversations. I should have at least made sure position reports were being made. Supplemental information from acn 95359: position report not given along flight plan until reaching champs. A position report was given at gabes, but I thought the instructions were to report champ. Made contact at champs, landed bwi.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR LGT INBOUND TO CONUS FAILED TO CONACT OCEANIC CTLR AND MAKE REQUIRED POSITION REPORTS.

Narrative: FLT FROM BDA TO BWI ON RTE B24. MONITORING NY COMMERCIAL RADIO HIGH FREQ. BOTH PLTS THOUGHT THE OTHER PLT HAD GIVEN THE CHAMP FIX POS RPT TO NY. THE RPT WAS NOT GIVEN. CONTACT WAS MADE WITH NY CENTER INBND TO SIE ON THE 131 DEG R, APPROX 150 MI DME, AT APPROX XA00. LOOKING BACK ON THE SITUATION, THERE WAS PROBABLY TOO MUCH CONVERSATION IN THE COCKPIT ENRTE. ALTHOUGH I WAS FLYING AND COPLT WAS WORKING THE RADIO (SUPPOSEDLY), I SHOULD HAVE VERIFIED THAT HE HAD MADE THE REQUIRED POS RPTS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 95357: GAVE POS TO BDA DEP, CLRED TO ENRTE. NEVER CONTACTED NY OCEANIC CTL, DID NOT REALIZE WE HAD NOT CONTACTED OCEANIC CTL UNTIL WE WERE SELCALED OVER CHAMPS. AS A S/O, I SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAYING MORE ATTN TO THE RADIO CONVERSATIONS. I SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST MADE SURE POS RPTS WERE BEING MADE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 95359: POS RPT NOT GIVEN ALONG FLT PLAN UNTIL REACHING CHAMPS. A POS RPT WAS GIVEN AT GABES, BUT I THOUGHT THE INSTRUCTIONS WERE TO RPT CHAMP. MADE CONTACT AT CHAMPS, LANDED BWI.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Air carrier large transport inbound to conus failed to conact oceanic controller and make required position reports.