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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Locale Reference||airport : dal|
|Altitude||agl bound lower : 0|
agl bound upper : 0
|Operator||general aviation : corporate|
|Make Model Name||Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng|
|Flight Phase||ground : preflight|
|Function||oversight : supervisor|
|Qualification||other other : other|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Qualification||pilot : instrument|
pilot : commercial
pilot : cfi
pilot : atp
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 100|
flight time total : 8200
flight time type : 2300
|Anomaly||other anomaly other|
|Independent Detector||other other : unspecified|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : anomaly accepted|
|Consequence||faa : investigated|
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
On 9/tue/88 light transport returned from a check ride. While the aircraft was flying it had been sold and I was asked to meet the aircraft with the records and to remove the airplane from our approved aircraft inspection program. When I arrived I removed our operation manual and flight log from the airplane, and prepared to make the proper logbook entry. At that time I was shown a slip of paper by our aircraft salesmen on which 4 discrepancies were written (form 110). I asked him what he wanted to do. He stated that they were not grounding items and that we no longer owned the aircraft, and that they could be checked out at augusta where the airplane was about to be delivered. I then made a log book entry removing the airplane from the approved aircraft inspection program and ended my responsibility for the airplane. I spoke to the returning crew and the first officer that was going to take the aircraft to garett in augusta. I gave the logbooks to the first officer, casually discussed the items of which he had already been made aware. My duty day was at an end, so I left for home. At approximately XA45 I was beeped on my beeper to call the office and was told by our dispatcher to call our pmi at the FAA. I called him and he asked how I had cleared the discrepancies on light transport from the check ride. I explained to him the situation as above, and that we no longer had control of the responsibility for the airplane since it had been sold and had been removed from our aaip. Our pmi said that he had some concern about the situation and that I was to bring him the records, the discrepancy sheet and the names of the pilots flying the airplane to augusta. I delivered the information to him on 9/wed/88. After the airplane left I realized that I had made the log book entry on the wrong form. I duplicated the entry onto the proper form and asked our salesmen to get the entry to the new owners. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: FAA did have a lengthy discussion with the maintenance supervisor. His main concern was the fact the discrepancies were not entered in the log. No action was taken against the flight crew, maintenance supervisor or the company, just a verbal reprimand. Supplemental information from acn 94755: not knowing where to look for information on the airplane such as aircraft times, engine times, status of inspections, and outstanding discrepancies I asked the copilot, aircraft salesman and dispatcher for this information. All of them informed me that the airplane was clean and this was to be a far 91 flight. Unbeknownst to me, the airplane had just returned from a chkride with an FAA operations inspector on board. The inspector had noted several problems with the aircraft and had instructed the newly rated pilot to enter the gripes into the aircraft discrepancy log.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACRT SOLD AND DISCREPANCY ITEMS NOT ENTERED IN THE ACFT LOG.
Narrative: ON 9/TUE/88 LTT RETURNED FROM A CHK RIDE. WHILE THE ACFT WAS FLYING IT HAD BEEN SOLD AND I WAS ASKED TO MEET THE ACFT WITH THE RECORDS AND TO REMOVE THE AIRPLANE FROM OUR APPROVED ACFT INSPECTION PROGRAM. WHEN I ARRIVED I REMOVED OUR OPERATION MANUAL AND FLT LOG FROM THE AIRPLANE, AND PREPARED TO MAKE THE PROPER LOGBOOK ENTRY. AT THAT TIME I WAS SHOWN A SLIP OF PAPER BY OUR ACFT SALESMEN ON WHICH 4 DISCREPANCIES WERE WRITTEN (FORM 110). I ASKED HIM WHAT HE WANTED TO DO. HE STATED THAT THEY WERE NOT GNDING ITEMS AND THAT WE NO LONGER OWNED THE ACFT, AND THAT THEY COULD BE CHKED OUT AT AUGUSTA WHERE THE AIRPLANE WAS ABOUT TO BE DELIVERED. I THEN MADE A LOG BOOK ENTRY REMOVING THE AIRPLANE FROM THE APPROVED ACFT INSPECTION PROGRAM AND ENDED MY RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE AIRPLANE. I SPOKE TO THE RETURNING CREW AND THE FO THAT WAS GOING TO TAKE THE ACFT TO GARETT IN AUGUSTA. I GAVE THE LOGBOOKS TO THE FO, CASUALLY DISCUSSED THE ITEMS OF WHICH HE HAD ALREADY BEEN MADE AWARE. MY DUTY DAY WAS AT AN END, SO I LEFT FOR HOME. AT APPROX XA45 I WAS BEEPED ON MY BEEPER TO CALL THE OFFICE AND WAS TOLD BY OUR DISPATCHER TO CALL OUR PMI AT THE FAA. I CALLED HIM AND HE ASKED HOW I HAD CLRED THE DISCREPANCIES ON LTT FROM THE CHK RIDE. I EXPLAINED TO HIM THE SIT AS ABOVE, AND THAT WE NO LONGER HAD CONTROL OF THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE AIRPLANE SINCE IT HAD BEEN SOLD AND HAD BEEN REMOVED FROM OUR AAIP. OUR PMI SAID THAT HE HAD SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE SIT AND THAT I WAS TO BRING HIM THE RECORDS, THE DISCREPANCY SHEET AND THE NAMES OF THE PLTS FLYING THE AIRPLANE TO AUGUSTA. I DELIVERED THE INFO TO HIM ON 9/WED/88. AFTER THE AIRPLANE LEFT I REALIZED THAT I HAD MADE THE LOG BOOK ENTRY ON THE WRONG FORM. I DUPLICATED THE ENTRY ONTO THE PROPER FORM AND ASKED OUR SALESMEN TO GET THE ENTRY TO THE NEW OWNERS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: FAA DID HAVE A LENGTHY DISCUSSION WITH THE MAINT SUPVR. HIS MAIN CONCERN WAS THE FACT THE DISCREPANCIES WERE NOT ENTERED IN THE LOG. NO ACTION WAS TAKEN AGAINST THE FLC, MAINT SUPVR OR THE COMPANY, JUST A VERBAL REPRIMAND. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 94755: NOT KNOWING WHERE TO LOOK FOR INFO ON THE AIRPLANE SUCH AS ACFT TIMES, ENG TIMES, STATUS OF INSPECTIONS, AND OUTSTANDING DISCREPANCIES I ASKED THE COPLT, ACFT SALESMAN AND DISPATCHER FOR THIS INFO. ALL OF THEM INFORMED ME THAT THE AIRPLANE WAS CLEAN AND THIS WAS TO BE A FAR 91 FLT. UNBEKNOWNST TO ME, THE AIRPLANE HAD JUST RETURNED FROM A CHKRIDE WITH AN FAA OPS INSPECTOR ON BOARD. THE INSPECTOR HAD NOTED SEVERAL PROBS WITH THE ACFT AND HAD INSTRUCTED THE NEWLY RATED PLT TO ENTER THE GRIPES INTO THE ACFT DISCREPANCY LOG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.