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|Local Time Of Day||1801 To 2400|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : sjc|
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 2000|
msl bound upper : 2000
|Controlling Facilities||tower : nuq|
|Operator||general aviation : instructional|
|Make Model Name||Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear|
|Flight Phase||cruise other|
|Function||instruction : instructor|
|Qualification||pilot : commercial|
pilot : instrument
pilot : cfi
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 40|
flight time total : 500
flight time type : 100
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Qualification||pilot : private|
|Anomaly||non adherence : far|
other anomaly other
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
other flight crewa
|Resolutory Action||none taken : anomaly accepted|
|Consequence||faa : reviewed incident with flight crew|
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
Training flight, 9/88, at pm local. Private pilot and his flight instrument in an small aircraft from san jose to palo alto to san carlos, ca. Communication could not be established with moffett field ATC after 4 repeated radio calls to moffett. While still within san jose air traffic area at 2000' MSL, instrument re-contacted san jose ATC to report 'negative contact' with moffett after repeated tries, and to request clearance through moffett air traffic area. San jose issued 'proceed on course' and advised of spc aircraft traffic in the pattern at moffett. San jose issued a frequency change to palo alto tower when small aircraft was overhead moffett. At no time during the incident were safety and sep standards compromised. The flight continued to palo alto (one landing with a taxi back for takeoff) then to san carlos where small aircraft was advised to telephone san carlos tower. San carlos tower controller advised us that he had received a call (from moffett??) complaining that we had not contacted moffett and that it was dangerous to fly through moffett air traffic area at 1100' as reported by moffett. Instrument outlined the event for controller. The private pilot's name and address and instrs name were given to controller. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter very aware of problem and his possible alternatives other than continuing to fly into air traffic area. Problem for him was thinking he heard what he wanted to hear--that he had clearance through air traffic area from sjc tower. Claims he made a learning experience of the situation by telling student this is what you do not want to do.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PENETRATED ATA WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: TRNING FLT, 9/88, AT PM LCL. PVT PLT AND HIS FLT INSTR IN AN SMA FROM SAN JOSE TO PALO ALTO TO SAN CARLOS, CA. COM COULD NOT BE ESTABLISHED WITH MOFFETT FIELD ATC AFTER 4 REPEATED RADIO CALLS TO MOFFETT. WHILE STILL WITHIN SAN JOSE ATA AT 2000' MSL, INSTR RE-CONTACTED SAN JOSE ATC TO RPT 'NEGATIVE CONTACT' WITH MOFFETT AFTER REPEATED TRIES, AND TO REQUEST CLRNC THROUGH MOFFETT ATA. SAN JOSE ISSUED 'PROCEED ON COURSE' AND ADVISED OF SPC ACFT TFC IN THE PATTERN AT MOFFETT. SAN JOSE ISSUED A FREQ CHANGE TO PALO ALTO TWR WHEN SMA WAS OVERHEAD MOFFETT. AT NO TIME DURING THE INCIDENT WERE SAFETY AND SEP STANDARDS COMPROMISED. THE FLT CONTINUED TO PALO ALTO (ONE LNDG WITH A TAXI BACK FOR TKOF) THEN TO SAN CARLOS WHERE SMA WAS ADVISED TO TELEPHONE SAN CARLOS TWR. SAN CARLOS TWR CTLR ADVISED US THAT HE HAD RECEIVED A CALL (FROM MOFFETT??) COMPLAINING THAT WE HAD NOT CONTACTED MOFFETT AND THAT IT WAS DANGEROUS TO FLY THROUGH MOFFETT ATA AT 1100' AS RPTED BY MOFFETT. INSTR OUTLINED THE EVENT FOR CTLR. THE PVT PLT'S NAME AND ADDRESS AND INSTRS NAME WERE GIVEN TO CTLR. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR VERY AWARE OF PROB AND HIS POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVES OTHER THAN CONTINUING TO FLY INTO ATA. PROB FOR HIM WAS THINKING HE HEARD WHAT HE WANTED TO HEAR--THAT HE HAD CLRNC THROUGH ATA FROM SJC TWR. CLAIMS HE MADE A LEARNING EXPERIENCE OF THE SITUATION BY TELLING STUDENT THIS IS WHAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO DO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.