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|Local Time Of Day||1801 To 2400|
|Locale Reference||airport : hky|
|Altitude||agl bound lower : 0|
agl bound upper : 0
|Operator||common carrier : air carrier|
|Make Model Name||Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng|
|Flight Phase||climbout : takeoff|
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
pilot : cfi
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 250|
flight time total : 9000
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||other personnel other|
|Anomaly||non adherence : far|
other anomaly other
|Independent Detector||other other : unspecified|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : detected after the fact|
|Consequence||faa : assigned or threatened penalties|
faa : investigated
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
9/mon/88 starts 1 week suspension as captain for flying assigned schedule that I could not possibly do within legal limits. Daily schedules blocked for less than 8 hours cannot be done in 8 hours. We are assigned schedules with understanding that they will watch our times and help us to stay within legal time limits. We are often told we are ok on times when we are not. I am being suspended for 1 week and also FAA has been informed. I am told that I will receive a violation and fine. During month of aug 2 days with overnights was added with understanding that total time (within 120 hours/30 days was ok) and that if any problem occurred (in shorter time requirements) that I would be notified and taken off line the last few days of month. On 9/thurs/88 we terminated a trip in hickory, nc, at XA30. At XA45 I called requesting that my time by checked, that I was nearing limits. Operations advised me that I was ok, but they would check their computer and call me if there was any problem. The operations clerk made written note of our conversation. She left a note that I was out of time and that I was to be contacted and stopped the next morning. Fri morning I called and was told that I was ok to continue flying. That day was IFR, IMC all day. Scheduled time was exceeded ending the day with over 9 hours of flying time. On 9/thurs/88 I was advised by the chief pilot, our division, that I was suspended, that a letter would be put in my file and that the FAA was advised and that I would receive a violation. Feel free to contact me if necessary or leave a message for me to return your call. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: company took action to keep the FAA off their backs as an FAA swat team was doing a routine investigation of company records at the time. Reporter also confessed that his medical certificate had expired and that the FAA has indicated they would process this violation but probably would not include the flight time violation because of the company action. A positive result of the FAA investigation is that the company is in the process of revising their scheduled block times to be more realistic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PIC RECEIVED COMPANY SUSPENSION FOR VIOLATING FLT TIME LIMITATION DURING SCHEDULED OPERATION.
Narrative: 9/MON/88 STARTS 1 WK SUSPENSION AS CAPT FOR FLYING ASSIGNED SCHEDULE THAT I COULD NOT POSSIBLY DO WITHIN LEGAL LIMITS. DAILY SCHEDULES BLOCKED FOR LESS THAN 8 HRS CANNOT BE DONE IN 8 HRS. WE ARE ASSIGNED SCHEDULES WITH UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY WILL WATCH OUR TIMES AND HELP US TO STAY WITHIN LEGAL TIME LIMITS. WE ARE OFTEN TOLD WE ARE OK ON TIMES WHEN WE ARE NOT. I AM BEING SUSPENDED FOR 1 WK AND ALSO FAA HAS BEEN INFORMED. I AM TOLD THAT I WILL RECEIVE A VIOLATION AND FINE. DURING MONTH OF AUG 2 DAYS WITH OVERNIGHTS WAS ADDED WITH UNDERSTANDING THAT TOTAL TIME (WITHIN 120 HRS/30 DAYS WAS OK) AND THAT IF ANY PROB OCCURRED (IN SHORTER TIME REQUIREMENTS) THAT I WOULD BE NOTIFIED AND TAKEN OFF LINE THE LAST FEW DAYS OF MONTH. ON 9/THURS/88 WE TERMINATED A TRIP IN HICKORY, NC, AT XA30. AT XA45 I CALLED REQUESTING THAT MY TIME BY CHKED, THAT I WAS NEARING LIMITS. OPS ADVISED ME THAT I WAS OK, BUT THEY WOULD CHK THEIR COMPUTER AND CALL ME IF THERE WAS ANY PROB. THE OPS CLERK MADE WRITTEN NOTE OF OUR CONVERSATION. SHE LEFT A NOTE THAT I WAS OUT OF TIME AND THAT I WAS TO BE CONTACTED AND STOPPED THE NEXT MORNING. FRI MORNING I CALLED AND WAS TOLD THAT I WAS OK TO CONTINUE FLYING. THAT DAY WAS IFR, IMC ALL DAY. SCHEDULED TIME WAS EXCEEDED ENDING THE DAY WITH OVER 9 HRS OF FLYING TIME. ON 9/THURS/88 I WAS ADVISED BY THE CHIEF PLT, OUR DIVISION, THAT I WAS SUSPENDED, THAT A LETTER WOULD BE PUT IN MY FILE AND THAT THE FAA WAS ADVISED AND THAT I WOULD RECEIVE A VIOLATION. FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME IF NECESSARY OR LEAVE A MESSAGE FOR ME TO RETURN YOUR CALL. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: COMPANY TOOK ACTION TO KEEP THE FAA OFF THEIR BACKS AS AN FAA SWAT TEAM WAS DOING A ROUTINE INVESTIGATION OF COMPANY RECORDS AT THE TIME. RPTR ALSO CONFESSED THAT HIS MEDICAL CERTIFICATE HAD EXPIRED AND THAT THE FAA HAS INDICATED THEY WOULD PROCESS THIS VIOLATION BUT PROBABLY WOULD NOT INCLUDE THE FLT TIME VIOLATION BECAUSE OF THE COMPANY ACTION. A POSITIVE RESULT OF THE FAA INVESTIGATION IS THAT THE COMPANY IS IN THE PROCESS OF REVISING THEIR SCHEDULED BLOCK TIMES TO BE MORE REALISTIC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.