 |
37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Sfo air carrier departure questioned nct's request for 300 KT speed restriction after crossing ocean shoreline.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 933248 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201102 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | SFO.Airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B747-400 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
| Route In Use | SID MOLEN |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Not Flying Check Pilot Captain |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 200 Flight Crew Total 13000 Flight Crew Type 8000 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
We departed sfo 28R on the molen departure. It was cavok. Our clean climb speed was 284 KTS. I forgot his exact wording; but while climbing out at about 5;000 ft the departure controller advised us that we had no speed restriction. I said 'roger.' then about 30 seconds later he asked our speed and I replied; '284 KTS.' he said 'maintain 300 KTS or better.' we complied. This is happening on a regular basis out of sfo on over water departures even though we are within a mile or two of the shoreline. Has this rule changed? If it has; we need to be advised. If it hasn't; I think ATC needs to have their procedures changed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SFO Air Carrier departure questioned NCT's request for 300 KT speed restriction after crossing ocean shoreline.
Narrative: We departed SFO 28R on the Molen departure. It was CAVOK. Our clean climb speed was 284 KTS. I forgot his exact wording; but while climbing out at about 5;000 FT the Departure Controller advised us that we had no speed restriction. I said 'Roger.' Then about 30 seconds later he asked our speed and I replied; '284 KTS.' He said 'Maintain 300 KTS or better.' We complied. This is happening on a regular basis out of SFO on over water departures even though we are within a mile or two of the shoreline. Has this rule changed? If it has; we need to be advised. If it hasn't; I think ATC needs to have their procedures changed.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.