Air carrier light transport and air carrier medium large transport have close call while both are on...

Attributes
ACN	93255
Time
Date	198808
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : mci
State Reference	MO
Altitude	msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : mci tower : lax
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	descent : approach other
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 3200
ASRS Report	93255
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 500 vertical : 0
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Light transport X on straight in approach to runway 27 when an large transport, instead of turning off at the normal high speed decided to use the whole runway for his landing rollout. Seeing the large transport was not going to be clear of runway 27 before we crossed the landing threshold, we were told to go around and to enter a right downwind for runway 1. At this time the go around (balk landing) checklist was being completed by myself. As we entered downwind for runway 1 I was asked by the captain if we were cleared to land. I said, 'let me check,' because I wasn't sure. I then asked the tower if we were cleared to land runway 1. Tower replied, 'cleared to land, start your base, now you'll be #1 inside medium large transport Y.' exact position wasn't given. We turned our base and about a 245 degree heading. 15 degrees before we were perpendicular to our landing runway medium large transport Y told the tower that they had an aircraft coming directly at them. We were currently crossing the center line for runway 1 due to the fact that the downwind leg was so tight because of the go around on runway 27. (Medium large transport Y was presently on about a 075-080 degree heading). The tower told us to keep the right turn coming and that we'd still be inside medium large transport Y, now in sight about 12:30-1 O'clock, 1-2 mi. The tower then told medium large transport Y to make a right turn and that he'd be #2 to follow us. Seeing that we both had each other visually at this time, we proceeded to pass on our respective headings, estimating about a 500' miss. Medium large transport Y was then cleared to land and we were given a left turn to intercept final for runway 1 and then cleared to land. The whole time it appeared medium large transport Y didn't know who we were, where we came from. From his reaction he was as surprised as we were. One point that might be noted is that we were both mode C equipped and functional. The air traffic load at the time was light to moderate, WX was VFR, clear 20 mi visibility.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR LTT AND ACR MLG HAVE CLOSE CALL WHILE BOTH ARE ON BASE LEG TO THE SAME RWY, OPPOSITE DIRECTION.

Narrative: LTT X ON STRAIGHT IN APCH TO RWY 27 WHEN AN LGT, INSTEAD OF TURNING OFF AT THE NORMAL HIGH SPD DECIDED TO USE THE WHOLE RWY FOR HIS LNDG ROLLOUT. SEEING THE LGT WAS NOT GOING TO BE CLR OF RWY 27 BEFORE WE CROSSED THE LNDG THRESHOLD, WE WERE TOLD TO GO AROUND AND TO ENTER A RIGHT DOWNWIND FOR RWY 1. AT THIS TIME THE GO AROUND (BALK LNDG) CHKLIST WAS BEING COMPLETED BY MYSELF. AS WE ENTERED DOWNWIND FOR RWY 1 I WAS ASKED BY THE CAPT IF WE WERE CLRED TO LAND. I SAID, 'LET ME CHK,' BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE. I THEN ASKED THE TWR IF WE WERE CLRED TO LAND RWY 1. TWR REPLIED, 'CLRED TO LAND, START YOUR BASE, NOW YOU'LL BE #1 INSIDE MLG Y.' EXACT POS WASN'T GIVEN. WE TURNED OUR BASE AND ABOUT A 245 DEG HDG. 15 DEGS BEFORE WE WERE PERPENDICULAR TO OUR LNDG RWY MLG Y TOLD THE TWR THAT THEY HAD AN ACFT COMING DIRECTLY AT THEM. WE WERE CURRENTLY XING THE CENTER LINE FOR RWY 1 DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE DOWNWIND LEG WAS SO TIGHT BECAUSE OF THE GO AROUND ON RWY 27. (MLG Y WAS PRESENTLY ON ABOUT A 075-080 DEG HDG). THE TWR TOLD US TO KEEP THE RIGHT TURN COMING AND THAT WE'D STILL BE INSIDE MLG Y, NOW IN SIGHT ABOUT 12:30-1 O'CLOCK, 1-2 MI. THE TWR THEN TOLD MLG Y TO MAKE A RIGHT TURN AND THAT HE'D BE #2 TO FOLLOW US. SEEING THAT WE BOTH HAD EACH OTHER VISUALLY AT THIS TIME, WE PROCEEDED TO PASS ON OUR RESPECTIVE HDGS, ESTIMATING ABOUT A 500' MISS. MLG Y WAS THEN CLRED TO LAND AND WE WERE GIVEN A LEFT TURN TO INTERCEPT FINAL FOR RWY 1 AND THEN CLRED TO LAND. THE WHOLE TIME IT APPEARED MLG Y DIDN'T KNOW WHO WE WERE, WHERE WE CAME FROM. FROM HIS REACTION HE WAS AS SURPRISED AS WE WERE. ONE POINT THAT MIGHT BE NOTED IS THAT WE WERE BOTH MODE C EQUIPPED AND FUNCTIONAL. THE AIR TFC LOAD AT THE TIME WAS LIGHT TO MODERATE, WX WAS VFR, CLEAR 20 MI VIS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Air carrier light transport and air carrier medium large transport have close call while both are on base leg to the same runway, opposite direction.