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Air carrier on visual approach to tpa was questioned by ATC regarding apparent no compliance with altitude crossing restrictions over macdill AFB.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 926620 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201101 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | TPA.Airport |
| State Reference | FL |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B737-700 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
| Route In Use | Visual Approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 189 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 123 Flight Crew Type 3750 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Altitude Excursion From Assigned Altitude Deviation - Procedural Clearance |
Narrative:
ATC cleared us to fly a visual approach to runway 36R at tpa and to turn over macdill air force base and maintain 2;600 ft until north of macdill. I turned abeam the northern edge of macdill; cut across the corner of the field boundary; continued the turn to a more northerly direction; and descended below 2;600 ft. ATC said we were too low over macdill and we said we were north of macdill runway 4; but still over the field boundary. Then ATC said we were actually 3/4 mile north of macdill and that we didn't turn over macdill. We said we did; but always stayed north of the runway. He canceled the clearance and had us climb back to 2;600 ft and turned us back to a 270 heading for a few moments before re-clearing us for a visual approach. That clearance he gave has always; in the past; meant to stay at 2;600 ft until south of the runways which we did. We felt we had complied with his instructions since there wasn't a definite point over macdill given. I suppose he wanted us to fly further south before turning in to the runway and descending; but if we had; I would still have descended where I did at the north field boundary.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air Carrier on visual approach to TPA was questioned by ATC regarding apparent no compliance with altitude crossing restrictions over MacDill AFB.
Narrative: ATC cleared us to fly a visual approach to Runway 36R at TPA and to turn over MacDill Air Force Base and maintain 2;600 FT until north of MacDill. I turned abeam the northern edge of MacDill; cut across the corner of the field boundary; continued the turn to a more northerly direction; and descended below 2;600 FT. ATC said we were too low over MacDill and we said we were north of MacDill Runway 4; but still over the field boundary. Then ATC said we were actually 3/4 mile north of MacDill and that we didn't turn over MacDill. We said we did; but always stayed north of the runway. He canceled the clearance and had us climb back to 2;600 FT and turned us back to a 270 heading for a few moments before re-clearing us for a visual approach. That clearance he gave has always; in the past; meant to stay at 2;600 FT until south of the runways which we did. We felt we had complied with his instructions since there wasn't a definite point over MacDill given. I suppose he wanted us to fly further south before turning in to the runway and descending; but if we had; I would still have descended where I did at the north field boundary.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.