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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 905627 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201008 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Component | |
| Aircraft Component | FMS/FMC |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Less Severe Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Was cleared to cross 40 NM west of VOR at FL240. Programed FMS for crossing; and also programed expected crossing of intersection at FL110. Was then given direct to the intersection. I then went back to vto page and didn't see that the FMS dumped the crossing restriction at the intersection. Unknown to me; I was using the crossing of 2;300 ft at another intersection on the ILS to the runway instead. Cause FMS limitations. Failure of FAA to require training (and that is not checking; but training. Training that is without stress of failure and losing your job). Install VNAV coupled autopilot. Update FMS so as not to dump crossing restriction after executing a direct to.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMB145 Captain reports missing a crossing restriction during descent due to FMS design limitations that dump a crossing restriction whenever a direct to function is selected. The reporter believes that inadequate training is part of the problem.
Narrative: Was cleared to cross 40 NM west of VOR at FL240. Programed FMS for crossing; and also programed expected crossing of intersection at FL110. Was then given direct to the intersection. I then went back to VTO page and didn't see that the FMS dumped the crossing restriction at the intersection. Unknown to me; I was using the crossing of 2;300 FT at another intersection on the ILS to the runway instead. Cause FMS limitations. Failure of FAA to require TRAINING (and that is not checking; BUT TRAINING. TRAINING that is without stress of failure and losing your job). Install VNAV coupled autopilot. Update FMS so as not to dump crossing restriction after executing a direct to.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.