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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||0601 To 1200|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : gso|
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 4000|
msl bound upper : 4000
|Controlling Facilities||tracon : gso|
tower : ewr
|Operator||general aviation : personal|
|Make Model Name||Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng|
|Flight Phase||descent : approach|
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Qualification||pilot : private|
pilot : instrument
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 25|
flight time total : 1880
flight time type : 900
|Affiliation||government : faa|
|Function||controller : approach|
|Qualification||controller : radar|
|Anomaly||other anomaly other|
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : anomaly accepted|
|Primary Problem||ATC Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||other|
At 4000' (1200' above FAF) AGL and 2 NM southwest of OM gso approach cleared me for the approach after capture of the localizer. I had to make an unnecessarily steep descent to complete the approach. I noticed the next aircraft to land after me, an small aircraft also was very high over the threshold, and seemed to be making a very steep descent. The incident called to mind my last previous approach to gso (I believe it was tue, april 1988, am), when approach lost me and neglected to turn me over to tower despite repeated requests by me. I think there is inadequate or improper supervision and/or training of ATC personnel at gso, at least compared to other approach facs into which I fly regularly. (Orl, dab, dca, chs, cre) I recommend a review. Callback conversation with reporter revealed following information. Callback reveals reporter so upset at time of incident he felt it prudent not to talk to ATC. Especially distressed when he saw next aircraft to arrive have to make same steep descent. Now feels it would have been best to speak to ATC in person at time of incident. Says really not eager to make another IFR approach at gso, but business makes trips from fl to md frequently.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TOO HIGH ALT WHEN CLEARED FOR ILS APCH.
Narrative: AT 4000' (1200' ABOVE FAF) AGL AND 2 NM SW OF OM GSO APCH CLRED ME FOR THE APCH AFTER CAPTURE OF THE LOC. I HAD TO MAKE AN UNNECESSARILY STEEP DSCNT TO COMPLETE THE APCH. I NOTICED THE NEXT ACFT TO LAND AFTER ME, AN SMA ALSO WAS VERY HIGH OVER THE THRESHOLD, AND SEEMED TO BE MAKING A VERY STEEP DSCNT. THE INCIDENT CALLED TO MIND MY LAST PREVIOUS APCH TO GSO (I BELIEVE IT WAS TUE, APRIL 1988, AM), WHEN APCH LOST ME AND NEGLECTED TO TURN ME OVER TO TWR DESPITE REPEATED REQUESTS BY ME. I THINK THERE IS INADEQUATE OR IMPROPER SUPERVISION AND/OR TRAINING OF ATC PERSONNEL AT GSO, AT LEAST COMPARED TO OTHER APCH FACS INTO WHICH I FLY REGULARLY. (ORL, DAB, DCA, CHS, CRE) I RECOMMEND A REVIEW. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED FOLLOWING INFO. CALLBACK REVEALS RPTR SO UPSET AT TIME OF INCIDENT HE FELT IT PRUDENT NOT TO TALK TO ATC. ESPECIALLY DISTRESSED WHEN HE SAW NEXT ACFT TO ARRIVE HAVE TO MAKE SAME STEEP DSCNT. NOW FEELS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BEST TO SPEAK TO ATC IN PERSON AT TIME OF INCIDENT. SAYS REALLY NOT EAGER TO MAKE ANOTHER IFR APCH AT GSO, BUT BUSINESS MAKES TRIPS FROM FL TO MD FREQUENTLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.