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|Local Time Of Day||0601 To 1200|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : san|
airport : see
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 3500|
msl bound upper : 3500
|Controlling Facilities||tracon : san|
|Make Model Name||Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng|
|Flight Phase||climbout : intermediate altitude|
|Route In Use||enroute : direct|
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Qualification||pilot : commercial|
pilot : instrument
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 80|
flight time total : 15000
|Affiliation||government : faa|
|Function||controller : departure|
|Qualification||controller : radar|
|Anomaly||non adherence : far|
other anomaly other
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : detected after the fact|
|Consequence||faa : investigated|
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
On taxi to end of runway at san, I asked ground control for squawk on transponder for VFR TCA climb to sac at 10500'. Ground advised me that they were unable and that I should contact approach on 132.2 after departure. After departure, while still over the departure end of runway 27R, I was instructed to contact approach and immediately contacted 132.2 and told him of my position and request to get arsa penetration. He replied that they had TCA not arsa. Current san diego area chart showed 'san diego TRSA 132.2.' he gave me squawk and then silence. The night before the same thing had happened on arrival. I was idented and given altitude. Then he talked to 1 other aircraft, then advised that I was entering TCA. I said that I knew that and that he had given discrete code and knew my position and intentions. I was not advised to remain clear of TCA. He said I should not anticipate clearance. Nothing further occurred.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TCA PENETRATION WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: ON TAXI TO END OF RWY AT SAN, I ASKED GND CTL FOR SQUAWK ON TRANSPONDER FOR VFR TCA CLB TO SAC AT 10500'. GND ADVISED ME THAT THEY WERE UNABLE AND THAT I SHOULD CONTACT APCH ON 132.2 AFTER DEP. AFTER DEP, WHILE STILL OVER THE DEP END OF RWY 27R, I WAS INSTRUCTED TO CONTACT APCH AND IMMEDIATELY CONTACTED 132.2 AND TOLD HIM OF MY POS AND REQUEST TO GET ARSA PENETRATION. HE REPLIED THAT THEY HAD TCA NOT ARSA. CURRENT SAN DIEGO AREA CHART SHOWED 'SAN DIEGO TRSA 132.2.' HE GAVE ME SQUAWK AND THEN SILENCE. THE NIGHT BEFORE THE SAME THING HAD HAPPENED ON ARR. I WAS IDENTED AND GIVEN ALT. THEN HE TALKED TO 1 OTHER ACFT, THEN ADVISED THAT I WAS ENTERING TCA. I SAID THAT I KNEW THAT AND THAT HE HAD GIVEN DISCRETE CODE AND KNEW MY POS AND INTENTIONS. I WAS NOT ADVISED TO REMAIN CLR OF TCA. HE SAID I SHOULD NOT ANTICIPATE CLRNC. NOTHING FURTHER OCCURRED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.